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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:28 pm 
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he put a lot of emphasis on injury, which is true

he's clearly not about to bag them and risk losing the group

so there's not much more you'd expect him to say

I'm guessing (hoping) what is said behind closed doors is very different.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:34 pm 
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Out of his depth. Sorry.
He is either confusing the players or they just don’t believe. Either way, it’s not good.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:34 pm 
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So who thinks Bolton will be sacked in the next 12 months?

Gawn if no improvement next year

Silvagni to follow?


No issue with SOS. Drafting has been ok. You can only bring good players to the club, it's up to the coach and his staff to develop them properly.

Bet if all those draft picks went to Sydney they'd near all turn out good players knowing exactly what their role is.


Thats rubbish if things were equal. Swans develop and protect their recruits in general by allowing them to develop in the NEAFL until their bodies are ready. We dont have that luxury. Bolts inherited a basked case thanks to Madhouse. Injuries have killed our year - a coach can only do so much with injuries like ours.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:07 pm 
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MarkNo3 wrote:
jim wrote:
WOW wrote:
So who thinks Bolton will be sacked in the next 12 months?

Gawn if no improvement next year

Silvagni to follow?


No issue with SOS. Drafting has been ok. You can only bring good players to the club, it's up to the coach and his staff to develop them properly.

Bet if all those draft picks went to Sydney they'd near all turn out good players knowing exactly what their role is.


Thats rubbish if things were equal. Swans develop and protect their recruits in general by allowing them to develop in the NEAFL until their bodies are ready. We dont have that luxury. Bolts inherited a basked case thanks to Madhouse. Injuries have killed our year - a coach can only do so much with injuries like ours.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:15 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:23 pm 
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Out of his depth. Sorry.
He is either confusing the players or they just don’t believe. Either way, it’s not good.



it doesn't end there. he is consistently out-coached. today, a prime example.

at quarter time we're right in it. brisbane make adjustments, spread our zone by using the flanks, using more run and carry to break up our defensive zone. and boom. we get blown off the park.

all afl coaches have a plan a, b and the really good coaches have plans c, d & e.


just about every game this year (only GC & melbourne blew us out early) bolton starts out great. using the tape sessions to pick apart teams mid week. but as soon as his opposing coach moves to plan b or makes some adjustments bolton is shot. he has no counter.


I think bolton is an excellent line coach. great with the guys, a motivator, does his homework, looks at lots of tape and picks holes in a static environment. but he's no afl head coach. he can't adjust, his matchups are poor, he's always outmanoeuvred during the game.

fagan coached circles around him today.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:54 pm 
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That's a great effort. In the 13 years I've been on this site, I haven't read as much unsubstantiated, uninformed rubbish jammed into the one post. Congratulations. That must have been quite an effort.
As for a Plan A or B, we've had plenty of games where we've worked our way back into the contest. Today they started winning the ball and we couldn't go with them.
But hey, continue with the creative, fictional writing, I'm sure someone will swallow it.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:58 pm 
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Anyone who thinks what we are seeing at the moment is part of a plan. Anyone who thinks that this was expected.
It was all part of the overall rebuild.
You are completely delusional
They haven't got a clue what their doing.
The entire coaching panel needs to be moved on.
Any of them sitting in the box and not speaking up or giving Bolton advice needs to be moved on.
The issue we have is MLG has backed this team in and to move them on there needs to be a move on him.
This is not a rebuild
It is not all about development
It is not a journey

This is a total cluster f#*k


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:00 pm 
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If there is anybody thinks Bolton is the coach for us have lost the plot like him he is that far out of is league it is not funny
how can you drop a key forward and not bring in another forward has lost the plot how can you select a team with 1 forward and play 2 ruckman who are not knowing for kicking goals
time to just play our kids he can go on about looking after them but at the end of the day our results are going to be the same what have we got yo lose by playing the likes of mackay a perfect example is hipwood he has now played about 60 games and about 10 games for mackay drafted in around the same time no more membership from me and my family till he is gone


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:01 pm 
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I think he's the coach for us, and if he's not given the chance to see out the year I'll be @#$%&! pissed.

No point debating why I think this, it's all been said, and people's minds are made up either way.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:03 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Anyone who thinks what we are seeing at the moment is part of a plan. Anyone who thinks that this was expected.
It was all part of the overall rebuild.
You are completely delusional
They haven't got a clue what their doing.
The entire coaching panel needs to be moved on.
Any of them sitting in the box and not speaking up or giving Bolton advice needs to be moved on.
The issue we have is MLG has backed this team in and to move them on there needs to be a move on him.
This is not a rebuild
It is not all about development
It is not a journey

This is a total cluster f#*k


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don't be silly syd

we're two and a half years into a rebuild

if we went back to scratch for another 6+ yr rebuild you may as well turn off the lights


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:20 pm 
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Someone please explain Weitering. Taken at numder 1 slotted in the team showed pose and class in his first year.
3 years with Bolton he is lost .If he went back to the under 18 he would be pick 100.
Someone explain SPS a rodeo bull rider with sublime skills who tore Collingwood apart now dinky kicks and scared of his own shadow.
Explain young Jack last year he was creating and kicking goals this year nearly every kick slides off his boot.
What has happened to Cunningham.
Polson in his 3rd year and looks completely lost.
We bemoan we have no big body midfielders to support Cripps but Curnow and Kennedy aren't exactly small and Kruezer hunts the ball
Whats happening with Wright he cant get near it
Jones is just clueless doesn't know when to go or hang back

We are not rebuilding we are dismantling. Top draft picks with superb skills looking like suburban footballers

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:42 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Someone please explain Weitering. Taken at numder 1 slotted in the team showed pose and class in his first year.
3 years with Bolton he is lost .If he went back to the under 18 he would be pick 100.
Someone explain SPS a rodeo bull rider with sublime skills who tore Collingwood apart now dinky kicks and scared of his own shadow.
Explain young Jack last year he was creating and kicking goals this year nearly every kick slides off his boot.
What has happened to Cunningham.
Polson in his 3rd year and looks completely lost.
We bemoan we have no big body midfielders to support Cripps but Curnow and Kennedy aren't exactly small and Kruezer hunts the ball
Whats happening with Wright he cant get near it
Jones is just clueless doesn't know when to go or hang back

We are not rebuilding we are dismantling. Top draft picks with superb skills looking like suburban footballers

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All good points, but Wright in particular. He was slaying them only 2 years ago. He'd be lucky to get a game with any other team on current form.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:44 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Someone please explain Weitering. Taken at numder 1 slotted in the team showed pose and class in his first year.
3 years with Bolton he is lost .If he went back to the under 18 he would be pick 100.
Someone explain SPS a rodeo bull rider with sublime skills who tore Collingwood apart now dinky kicks and scared of his own shadow.
Explain young Jack last year he was creating and kicking goals this year nearly every kick slides off his boot.
What has happened to Cunningham.
Polson in his 3rd year and looks completely lost.
We bemoan we have no big body midfielders to support Cripps but Curnow and Kennedy aren't exactly small and Kruezer hunts the ball
Whats happening with Wright he cant get near it
Jones is just clueless doesn't know when to go or hang back

We are not rebuilding we are dismantling. Top draft picks with superb skills looking like suburban footballers

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Weitering is in his 3rd year, should be starting now really kick on but has gone backwards. This was the same bloke who was like a general in his first year then gave Rance an absolute touch up in his 2nd year early on in the year. That was a star there and then. What has happened? SPS another? SOS another. They have no idea of their roles and look lost. That's coaching! While VFL I saw Weitering play role of general in the backline. Marked brilliantly, was a real leader, read the play beautifully, used it very well, dominated more than i have ever seen any AFL player dominate in the VFL and took 17 marks. VFL admittedly but that was star talent. In the AFL we play 4 key defenders, why I don't know, and Weitering is totally lost as to his role. Just being developed poorly, used poorly and has no confidence. it's time to have more faith in the young players and let them take control and even lead. Weitering and Marchbank, when fit, in the key roles at one end, C.Curnow and McKay at the other end. Some might thrive as key players in important roles ikn both key positions and in the midfield. Many do.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:47 pm 
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I think he's the coach for us, and if he's not given the chance to see out the year I'll be @#$%&! pissed.

No point debating why I think this, it's all been said, and people's minds are made up either way.


I've wavered for a while but now made up my mind. We should have our structures set, coach's imprint on the game but instead we look lost with no idea how to play modern football and very little clue about their roles.

We finish on one win this year it's officially the worst season in our proud history. After 7 and 6 the last two years that is totally unacceptable and on the coach. Time to go!


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:50 pm 
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Out of his depth. Sorry.
He is either confusing the players or they just don’t believe. Either way, it’s not good.


100% agree, Essendon* were more competitive when they were redacted. If anything the injuries are the only saving grace for the coaching and MC.

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jim wrote:
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I think he's the coach for us, and if he's not given the chance to see out the year I'll be @#$%&! pissed.

No point debating why I think this, it's all been said, and people's minds are made up either way.


I've wavered for a while but now made up my mind. We should have our structures set, coach's imprint on the game but instead we look lost with no idea how to play modern football and very little clue about their roles.

We finish on one win this year it's officially the worst season in our proud history. After 7 and 6 the last two years that is totally unacceptable and on the coach. Time to go!

There are plenty more reasons than just the coach for why this season has gone to pot. They've been outlined ad nauseum, but it's much easier to point the finger at one person.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:16 pm 
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Donstuie wrote:
jim wrote:
Donstuie wrote:
I think he's the coach for us, and if he's not given the chance to see out the year I'll be @#$%&! pissed.

No point debating why I think this, it's all been said, and people's minds are made up either way.


I've wavered for a while but now made up my mind. We should have our structures set, coach's imprint on the game but instead we look lost with no idea how to play modern football and very little clue about their roles.

We finish on one win this year it's officially the worst season in our proud history. After 7 and 6 the last two years that is totally unacceptable and on the coach. Time to go!

There are plenty more reasons than just the coach for why this season has gone to pot. They've been outlined ad nauseum, but it's much easier to point the finger at one person.


The coach is the fair reason. Fish rots at the head. We're look and confused out there. Some very talented young players are going backwards. It's not as if we've drafted crap this time. Injuries would be an excuse if we won 5 or 6 games, not ONE!

Culture could be a reason too. Rhys Palmer's tweet recently doesn't seem far off the mark right now.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:34 pm 
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Happy to keep Bolts at the helm but how about rats as either Mackay or Neil Craig’s replacement to provide some additional discipline and leadership?


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:37 pm 
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I don't think we should put it all on the coach but he isn't blameless either
I'm still a Bolton man but to win one game for the season is not good enough and every time we play in a winnable game we play appallingly with little spirit hunger or grit
The games against Brisbane Gold Coast and Fremantle have collectively been absolutely appalling why we not turn up against these teams -the coach and the team wouldn't be under such pressure if they had won those games or gave a good account of themselves

Can't see us winning another game because even against the weaker teams we never produce our best
We can't seem to play well other than at the MCG and travelling interstate never take our opportunities

Next Friday should be a non negotiable where we should be so hungry for a win we tear strips off Stkilda who aren't very good

What's the bet at etihad instead of breathing fire and getting a good start the Aints kick the first few and we are out of the game 15 mins in

Reckon Bolts gets the rest of the year to sort out who he wants and to try and stabilise/refine the game plan and 2019 to see a muchly improved performance from the team otherwise more of the same next year and its sayonara


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