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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:50 pm 
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If fact my advice to a coach would be RUN!!!!!!!!

yes we pay well but we''ll also @#$%&! you over cos we are a shit


The Port Adelaide coaching Gig was described as a graveyard, at least for the medium term.

Parkin was asked to head a selection panel to find a suitable coach for Port. Ratten on the rebound was an applicant, a washed up Eade and a desperate but highly regarded a Hinkley also applied. Port improved immediately after 1 pre season under Hinkley. Improved again this year and really should be playing the Swans in the GF.

As a Club Carlton still clings to the silver bullet solution. We have far too many weak spots as a sporting organisation and haven't really embraced the modern race to the top. We don't set trends anymore, and we don't even follow the best either...I don't really know what we stand for, perhaps mediocrity.

We are heading into the 2015 season without committing to an extension to Mick's contract - hardly a vote of confidence in the senior coach, and creating extreme pressure on everyone at the club in the early rounds of 2015,


I'm not sure what you want the club to do Cret.

MM is under contract. I dont think sacking him is a good isea.
I believe what it says is what you read into it. For me its a case of 3rd and final year of a Contract and lets see what improvement he can muster from this group.

I believe injuries will decide his fate at the end of the day, like they did (in part) with Ratts and Britts. A good run with injury in 2015 and a few good inclusions to the squad like last year and we can make the top 4 let alone the finals. Then his contract may be extended.

Im sure there's a plan and his contract has been discussed to some degree, but then again, there's a bonafide contract in place for 2015. That's the whole of next year.

Come on Blues I cant stand it us not being in the GF!!!!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:47 pm 
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Cret has no cretybility... Wouldn't take much notice of his football talk...
He's a dreamer... Kicks the ball around in his back yard with CD that is playing crowd noise....

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 12:33 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
Cretylus wrote:
dannyboy wrote:

If fact my advice to a coach would be RUN!!!!!!!!

yes we pay well but we''ll also @#$%&! you over cos we are a shit


The Port Adelaide coaching Gig was described as a graveyard, at least for the medium term.

Parkin was asked to head a selection panel to find a suitable coach for Port. Ratten on the rebound was an applicant, a washed up Eade and a desperate but highly regarded a Hinkley also applied. Port improved immediately after 1 pre season under Hinkley. Improved again this year and really should be playing the Swans in the GF.

As a Club Carlton still clings to the silver bullet solution. We have far too many weak spots as a sporting organisation and haven't really embraced the modern race to the top. We don't set trends anymore, and we don't even follow the best either...I don't really know what we stand for, perhaps mediocrity.

We are heading into the 2015 season without committing to an extension to Mick's contract - hardly a vote of confidence in the senior coach, and creating extreme pressure on everyone at the club in the early rounds of 2015,


I'm not sure what you want the club to do Cret.

MM is under contract. I dont think sacking him is a good isea.
I believe what it says is what you read into it. For me its a case of 3rd and final year of a Contract and lets see what improvement he can muster from this group.

I believe injuries will decide his fate at the end of the day, like they did (in part) with Ratts and Britts. A good run with injury in 2015 and a few good inclusions to the squad like last year and we can make the top 4 let alone the finals. Then his contract may be extended.

Im sure there's a plan and his contract has been discussed to some degree, but then again, there's a bonafide contract in place for 2015. That's the whole of next year.

Come on Blues I cant stand it us not being in the GF!!!!


I dont either...

But its obvious to everyone (especially the players) that if Mick doesnt receive a contract extension before the start of the 2015 season then the first half of the season is an ultimatum to make the finals. Not ideal in my opinion.

Ideally the Club needs to decide if Mick is the man to take us forward - it was never a 3 year Job anyway - we had too many holes to fill, and weak leadership base to start from.

I am actually confident we will have a good first half of the year next year - that is half the battle. (and generally we tend to play our best footy in the second half anyway, so our start is critical)

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:40 am 
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:52 am 
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Mick Malthouse - 6 6 6

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:33 am 
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Cretylus wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Cretylus wrote:
dannyboy wrote:

If fact my advice to a coach would be RUN!!!!!!!!

yes we pay well but we''ll also @#$%&! you over cos we are a shit


The Port Adelaide coaching Gig was described as a graveyard, at least for the medium term.

Parkin was asked to head a selection panel to find a suitable coach for Port. Ratten on the rebound was an applicant, a washed up Eade and a desperate but highly regarded a Hinkley also applied. Port improved immediately after 1 pre season under Hinkley. Improved again this year and really should be playing the Swans in the GF.

As a Club Carlton still clings to the silver bullet solution. We have far too many weak spots as a sporting organisation and haven't really embraced the modern race to the top. We don't set trends anymore, and we don't even follow the best either...I don't really know what we stand for, perhaps mediocrity.

We are heading into the 2015 season without committing to an extension to Mick's contract - hardly a vote of confidence in the senior coach, and creating extreme pressure on everyone at the club in the early rounds of 2015,


I'm not sure what you want the club to do Cret.

MM is under contract. I dont think sacking him is a good isea.
I believe what it says is what you read into it. For me its a case of 3rd and final year of a Contract and lets see what improvement he can muster from this group.

I believe injuries will decide his fate at the end of the day, like they did (in part) with Ratts and Britts. A good run with injury in 2015 and a few good inclusions to the squad like last year and we can make the top 4 let alone the finals. Then his contract may be extended.

Im sure there's a plan and his contract has been discussed to some degree, but then again, there's a bonafide contract in place for 2015. That's the whole of next year.

Come on Blues I cant stand it us not being in the GF!!!!


I dont either...

But its obvious to everyone (especially the players) that if Mick doesnt receive a contract extension before the start of the 2015 season then the first half of the season is an ultimatum to make the finals. Not ideal in my opinion.

Ideally the Club needs to decide if Mick is the man to take us forward - it was never a 3 year Job anyway - we had too many holes to fill, and weak leadership base to start from.

I am actually confident we will have a good first half of the year next year - that is half the battle. (and generally we tend to play our best footy in the second half anyway, so our start is critical)


So by your reckoning we should have a succession plan if we don't think mick is the one to go forward with (ask collingwood supporters how they feel about that).

I don't understand the idiocy of extending a contract with a year left to run. I don't believe that Mick feels as if he has achieved what we wants from this group and therefore will not be going anywhere so that leave us in the drivers seat so why extend?


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:46 am 
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Mick Malthouse - 6 6 6


Actually he is 7 4 4

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:51 am 
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Mick is the consumate coach , he'll squish the best out of the players , facilities and assists he has around him and get rid of what he does not need. He'll be given the term he needs .
He has an amazing passion and drive for the game, the master will get the Baggers to were the should stand, right on top.
We need almighty patience for a few years yet, he needs to upgrade many aspects.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 12:12 pm 
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barass wrote:
teagueyubeauty wrote:
Mick Malthouse - 6 6 6


Actually he is 7 4 4

Whatever that means!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 12:20 pm 
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 7:15 pm 
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Anyone else notice how diabolically bad collingwood are looking just a couple years past Mick? It's almost unrecognisable to the powerhouse roster and club Mick left it as.


... meanwhile Carlton is on the up.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 7:16 pm 
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:16 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
Anyone else notice how diabolically bad collingwood are looking just a couple years past Mick? It's almost unrecognisable to the powerhouse roster and club Mick left it as.


... meanwhile Carlton is on the up.


Discuss


From the outside looking in, this appears to be true. Although I would say our 'up' will be no more than a few ladder positions. Finals still doubtful for 2015 due to our depth.

I would wait until we are 2-0 against them and higher on the ladder before claiming any form of superiority.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 3:28 pm 
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Anyone happen to watch the chosen ones on seven last night? Gotta admit I face palmed when all the new gen coaches spoke about having to put in 9-11 hrs of work in after a game to make sure they covered all bases. Cut to Mick who says he doesn't do any of that because believe it or not he was actually at the game the day before & knows what happened!!

Still believe we won't win a flag with Mick coaching but will win a flag because of having Mick as a coach setting the foundation.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:52 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
Anyone else notice how diabolically bad collingwood are looking just a couple years past Mick? It's almost unrecognisable to the powerhouse roster and club Mick left it as.


... meanwhile Carlton is on the up.


Discuss

On the up?? Didn't we finish 13th? How are we on the up? Only in the sense that we might finish higher than 13 th next year, with a fit Judd and then slip back again. We are nowhere near a flag and unless we have a long term strategy we will be mired in mediocrity for another ten years. What is our plan? Did we get Daisy so he cd win us a flag in the next four years, anyone seriously think we are going to be anywhere near a flag in the next few seasons? We don't seem to know where we are and where we are going. I can just see us giving up way to much for past their best players and players who struggle to get a game at their original club. The Hawks success is built on hodge, mitchell roughhead franklin and lewis and then supplemented after 08 by adding mature players to a recent flag side and judicious drafting without high picks. What is our plan, our time frame our set up? It changes every week. I doubt murph or gibbs will get to play in a flag. I don't care where cwd are. We need to match the hawks and we are about a century and a million miles away at the moment. If we rise to 9th and the pies are 10 th, that's not a victory. If we think it is we are not the club i grew up with.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:34 pm 
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Cretylus wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Cretylus wrote:
dannyboy wrote:

If fact my advice to a coach would be RUN!!!!!!!!

yes we pay well but we''ll also @#$%&! you over cos we are a shit


The Port Adelaide coaching Gig was described as a graveyard, at least for the medium term.

Parkin was asked to head a selection panel to find a suitable coach for Port. Ratten on the rebound was an applicant, a washed up Eade and a desperate but highly regarded a Hinkley also applied. Port improved immediately after 1 pre season under Hinkley. Improved again this year and really should be playing the Swans in the GF.

As a Club Carlton still clings to the silver bullet solution. We have far too many weak spots as a sporting organisation and haven't really embraced the modern race to the top. We don't set trends anymore, and we don't even follow the best either...I don't really know what we stand for, perhaps mediocrity.

We are heading into the 2015 season without committing to an extension to Mick's contract - hardly a vote of confidence in the senior coach, and creating extreme pressure on everyone at the club in the early rounds of 2015,


I'm not sure what you want the club to do Cret.

MM is under contract. I dont think sacking him is a good isea.
I believe what it says is what you read into it. For me its a case of 3rd and final year of a Contract and lets see what improvement he can muster from this group.

I believe injuries will decide his fate at the end of the day, like they did (in part) with Ratts and Britts. A good run with injury in 2015 and a few good inclusions to the squad like last year and we can make the top 4 let alone the finals. Then his contract may be extended.

Im sure there's a plan and his contract has been discussed to some degree, but then again, there's a bonafide contract in place for 2015. That's the whole of next year.

Come on Blues I cant stand it us not being in the GF!!!!


I dont either...

But its obvious to everyone (especially the players) that if Mick doesnt receive a contract extension before the start of the 2015 season then the first half of the season is an ultimatum to make the finals. Not ideal in my opinion.

Ideally the Club needs to decide if Mick is the man to take us forward - it was never a 3 year Job anyway - we had too many holes to fill, and weak leadership base to start from.

I am actually confident we will have a good first half of the year next year - that is half the battle. (and generally we tend to play our best footy in the second half anyway, so our start is critical)

Should always be desperate to play finals - failure must come with consequence - they are professionals; mm included


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:36 pm 
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Cretylus wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Cretylus wrote:
dannyboy wrote:

If fact my advice to a coach would be RUN!!!!!!!!

yes we pay well but we''ll also @#$%&! you over cos we are a shit


The Port Adelaide coaching Gig was described as a graveyard, at least for the medium term.

Parkin was asked to head a selection panel to find a suitable coach for Port. Ratten on the rebound was an applicant, a washed up Eade and a desperate but highly regarded a Hinkley also applied. Port improved immediately after 1 pre season under Hinkley. Improved again this year and really should be playing the Swans in the GF.

As a Club Carlton still clings to the silver bullet solution. We have far too many weak spots as a sporting organisation and haven't really embraced the modern race to the top. We don't set trends anymore, and we don't even follow the best either...I don't really know what we stand for, perhaps mediocrity.

We are heading into the 2015 season without committing to an extension to Mick's contract - hardly a vote of confidence in the senior coach, and creating extreme pressure on everyone at the club in the early rounds of 2015,


I'm not sure what you want the club to do Cret.

MM is under contract. I dont think sacking him is a good isea.
I believe what it says is what you read into it. For me its a case of 3rd and final year of a Contract and lets see what improvement he can muster from this group.

I believe injuries will decide his fate at the end of the day, like they did (in part) with Ratts and Britts. A good run with injury in 2015 and a few good inclusions to the squad like last year and we can make the top 4 let alone the finals. Then his contract may be extended.

Im sure there's a plan and his contract has been discussed to some degree, but then again, there's a bonafide contract in place for 2015. That's the whole of next year.

Come on Blues I cant stand it us not being in the GF!!!!


I dont either...

But its obvious to everyone (especially the players) that if Mick doesnt receive a contract extension before the start of the 2015 season then the first half of the season is an ultimatum to make the finals. Not ideal in my opinion.

Ideally the Club needs to decide if Mick is the man to take us forward - it was never a 3 year Job anyway - we had too many holes to fill, and weak leadership base to start from.

I am actually confident we will have a good first half of the year next year - that is half the battle. (and generally we tend to play our best footy in the second half anyway, so our start is critical)

C'mon they are professionals and should be desperate.....must feel performance has consequence


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:04 pm 
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gerry atric wrote:
Braithy wrote:
Anyone else notice how diabolically bad collingwood are looking just a couple years past Mick? It's almost unrecognisable to the powerhouse roster and club Mick left it as.


... meanwhile Carlton is on the up.


Discuss

On the up?? Didn't we finish 13th? How are we on the up? Only in the sense that we might finish higher than 13 th next year, with a fit Judd and then slip back again. We are nowhere near a flag and unless we have a long term strategy we will be mired in mediocrity for another ten years. What is our plan? Did we get Daisy so he cd win us a flag in the next four years, anyone seriously think we are going to be anywhere near a flag in the next few seasons? We don't seem to know where we are and where we are going. I can just see us giving up way to much for past their best players and players who struggle to get a game at their original club. The Hawks success is built on hodge, mitchell roughhead franklin and lewis and then supplemented after 08 by adding mature players to a recent flag side and judicious drafting without high picks. What is our plan, our time frame our set up? It changes every week. I doubt murph or gibbs will get to play in a flag. I don't care where cwd are. We need to match the hawks and we are about a century and a million miles away at the moment. If we rise to 9th and the pies are 10 th, that's not a victory. If we think it is we are not the club i grew up with.


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