Don't tell that to Geelong, WC and Adelaide who don't partake in altitude training.

We need to poach The Weapon to turn them into Universal Soldiers who are braver than Essendon*. Except for the match where they went down to Melbourne in a bruise free game.

Why is that????

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God I would love the Bombers to hit the wall again this year . Their run home is tough and they could easily miss the finals with just a bit of trouble.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Time to find some new yum cha partners

Whilst I do support your general theme there.
I know you won't expect me to go for Freo this w/end.


Much more concerning if Freo make the 8 and we don't. I will be inconsolable(not sure that's a word)

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

And here I thought you were one of the great minds on this board

My best guess is that any initial beneficial effects are lost after a short period of time, but cumulative the more times you engage in them.

Jimmae will know

Spoiler

Cos after three years they will have been to every bar and night club in Arizona and then they will have established which are the better ones to frequent. Won't have to muck around anymore. Head straight to the good ones.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

It's been a great comfort to me that, no matter how bad we are going, I can always go watch the dirty filthy scum get their pants pulled down at Subi oval.
Sorry but it is very important that this one small joy remain in my otherwise miserable existence.

(miserable existence ref for dramatic effect only)

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I hope Essendon* folds.

sigh. you can take the boy out of WA...

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

Gilly.. are you certain ????

I think youre guessing........

Im waiting for club to explain it....the theory high altitude training is better after 3 hours times a week.

and why???

i think you guys are dreaming....!!!!

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Guessing

Gilly..??? arent u curious as to why it takes 3 annual sessions to work???

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I think footy dept spend being what it is, clearly tells us, the funds will be made available and is great sign. That is undisputable.

How we choose to spend and how effective the spend is, needs further analysis. Experience tells us introducing new capability and services into any organisation has inital teething problems and proposed benefits are not typically realised in the first year of operation. If there is an apetite for feedback and improvement then usually benefits come to fruition in the second year.

So its too early to full judge cost reward. That said some of that spend would be on functions that have been in operation for many years, recruitment, player development, list management etc on these judgement is justified. Mackay is definitely accountable for improving these under performing functions.

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'‘He had an enormous capacity to pump himself up and get the best out of himself when it mattered. He had a fire in his belly – a passion for the contest like few other players’' -- D Parkin in reference to the dominator

That sticks interview highlighted 3 things for
1 sticks is a very loyal person, demonstrated that consistently in his life. This is his strength but i get the sense this is his greatest weakness. Does not strike me as demanding performance, rather the supportive and loyal mother type.
2 sticks portrays a view of the presidency that suggests its more figurehead in nature, ......oh alright ill take, jeanie if you want it, let me know etc. calls on this thread for him to be replaced with a different president are well founded a driven more ruthless leader is required. Sticks likes galvinise different parties but is he demanding enough to not accept poor performance.
3. Sticks is ideal when surrounded by great people. But is he cluey enough to recognise when he is not!

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'‘He had an enormous capacity to pump himself up and get the best out of himself when it mattered. He had a fire in his belly – a passion for the contest like few other players’' -- D Parkin in reference to the dominator

Just on player development, I was thinking about our recent NAB rising star nominations which are as follows:



2012

2011

2010 Yaz & Jeff
2009 AJ

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Cheats never prosper (except in the AFL)

Gleeson......the suburban insurance broker? What value has he added in so many years. Same with that Lo giudice. What has he done other than steer Judd in the wrong direction which almost cost him $0.5m

It appears many of our board members are mired in their self importance!

Collingwood goes to Arizona, Collingwood wins the Flag. BAAAAA BAAAAA

Hey, I'm all for stealing good ideas from others, but do it critically and look at some innovation.

Altitude training is completely overrated for AFL football, at least in terms of its sustained benefits for a significant proportion of the season. High altitude means less oxygen in the air. Hypoxic drive stimulates erythropoeitin release which increases haemoglobin concentration of the blood which leads to greater oxygen carrying capacity of the blood, which leads to greater aerobic capacity and better sustained exercise capacity. Biology 101. These effects at high altitude (or at simulated high altitude) take weeks to develop and are sustained for a period of weeks after return to sea level. Altitude training therefore is most beneficial when it is sustained for a period of weeks and for an athlete preparing for a single or limited run of closely spaced endurance events eg distance running, cycling swimming etc. Carlton players may have got fitter being in simulated high altitude in Abu Dhabi for a couple of weeks and this may have been sustained for a few weeks after return, but this is highly unlikely to have had any sustained benefit through the season.

I dont discount the placebo effect or the beneficial effect of being away together at a nice place for a couple of weeks, free of distractions etc. on sense of wellbeing and team morale

Personally I dont have a problem with the expenditure if we can afford it and benefits are clearly understood, which I'm sure they are.

However its been a long time since Carlton looked like it was innovating anything, whether it be game plan, lateral thinking around training, recruiting, player development or administrative management. (Not that 'd really know but that's how it seems from the outside)

The responsibility for that must rest with the executive and Board, and Sticks is the figurehead, thus the validity of the thread.

fear of failure ?

'the swagger'

'we are Carlton !@#$% the rest'

could it be just false bravado ?