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$20,000 fine for being a shelfish flowering moron.

Dismissed from the leadership group pronto.

100 hours of cleaning toilets in the Collingwood/Richmond/Carlton area.

And lastly suspended for 2 games against Richmond and St Kilda.

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Suspend Fev how many chances can you give a bloke.

I don't expect every player to be a saint but how many chances can you give one guy. :twisted:

Club greater then the player.

As a minimum he should be kicked out of the leadership group.


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FFS, this isn't about "tackling social issues" and "setting examples", this is about flowering discipline. Without discipline there is no flowering way this club will go anywhere, no matter how talented the players are. You people make it sound as though poor little Fev is being targeted through no fault of his own and is just a scapegoat for the PC police. Bullshit. This is exactly what we need to iron out of this club if we want to get this club back to the top, especially when we're talking about someone who is a serial offender and clearly hasn't learned his lessons after years of being slapped with lettuce leaves and being told he's too good to suspend.

West Coast had success with drug addicts on their team for a short time, but now look at them. They've lost their two best players and were under investigation by the AFL, and now two years after winning a flag with one of the youngest lists around, they're 'starting over'. Is this where we want to be? Do we want to win a flag only to see it all get pissed away through players being so ill-adjusted to success and admiration that we have to start from scractch? I sure as @#$%&! don't want to be. I'd rather get to the top and stay there thanks.

The sooner players realise that it's NOT ok to make an arse of yourself just because you're good at footy, the better we'll be. But the more people we have around saying "I don't care what he does in his spare time, I just want him to play footy well", our chances of reaching our real potential drop even further.

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Let's let him play. Punishing Richmond is far more sporting and sensible.

Most already knew Fev was a tool, he's just confirming it for the new guys at the club who may have harboured doubts.

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A guy at work was standing next to Fev at the casino at 5:30am.

What a long night he had.

Surely he can do that shit when he is in his mid 30's, until then, don't do it.


Means jack...during his stellar year Brendan was at the casino at 5.30 am on more than one occasion I witnessed...and sober. In fact many people play poker at the casino at that hour before work...it's not as uncommon as you'd think. I can see the points though - he was in the wrong...urinating in on a premises' window during business hours is disgusting (yes..more disgusting than if the establishment is closed)...but I'll be shocked if he's suspended. Large fine, community service and relegation from the leadership group.


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Don, would you like your own personal standards to be scrutinised in public?

No, I wouldn't. But I'd sure as @#$%&! use some self-control if I was in a position where that would be part of my life.

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For example does your moral fibre accept something like using another poster's jokes and news on other forums without attribution? :wink: :wink:

I think it was either once or twice I didn't mention the source, more out of negligence than anything else, and am much more careful now. Definite epidemic, my rampage must be stopped. Besides, anytime someone asks me where I heard something I tell them. But yeah, definite correlation between that and making an drunken arse of myself. Especially given how famous a guy I am. No need to target the argument when you can just target the person.

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SEN Rumour: $5k fine, playing this week, out of leadership group and banned from grog all year (Could of been season).

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mjonc wrote:
SEN Rumour: $5k fine, playing this week, out of leadership group and banned from grog all year.


Perfect, bring on Richmond.

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He doesn't have anything much to answer for, so logic would suggest he won't receive any sort of punishment.

Can anyone confirm that there is a curfew at Carlton he was breaking? I haven't heard it mentioned before that we have a curfew. Does this mean Fevola has to leave his own restaurant and go home so as not to break the curfew?

Fevola said without any hesitation that there would be no video footage of him urinating. There isn't any footage of him urinating anyway, so he can't be held responsible for something that is impossible to prove.

This chap who has been in the media a) wasn't injured, b) didn't call the cops, c) is not making assault charges, and d) has played the incident up to the media to great effect.

No patrons have come forward in the media to back up claims that Fevola was urinating on the window.

The CCTV footage does not show Fevola urinating on the window.

All up there was a bit of a push and shove which was all over very quickly and Fevola moved on.

There have been no reports in the media about Fevola being blind drunk, either at the cafe or anywhere else in Melbourne. He was out late, with his wife, but as has been suggested they have a business which opens until late at night. If 1 and a half hours after the incident Fevola was still out and about, one would think he would be completely off his face by 5.30am yet nowehere has this been reported.

It's quite possible that after work Fevola likes to unwind, which could mean staying up for a while after the restaurant is closed. It's irrelevant what time he stays up to. Lots of people who work into the night don't just go home and go to bed. Saturday night would be the restaurant's busiest night too, so it's no wonder he and his wife were winding down. They may have only closed up a couple of hours before. Either way, it's got nothing to do with anyone here how late Fevola stays up.

There really isn't a case to answer to. There wasn't even a fight. Pushing someone who was abusing you verbally can lead to a fight, but it didn't, sane heads prevailed and there was no incident. This wally from the cafe just wants to get his 15 minutes of fame.


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mjonc wrote:
SEN Rumour: $5k fine, playing this week, out of leadership group and banned from grog all year.

Only an sms rumour but if that ends up being the case then thats a good result imo...just getting him off the grog is a good result.


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Don't penalise the team for the sake of one person. We need every win possible. If we blow a game to the Tigers by 5pts and miss the finals by percentage because Fev's was out we'd spew. All I care about is the 4 points, nothing else is my problem. That's the prime reason we're here for, to win games of footy and for that you need your best side. If he kicks 100 goals I don't care if he runs naked in Chapel St.
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I was, admittedly, all for suspending him after the Freo effort last year because it affecte our on-field effort that day. This doesn't. Give him a fine and a suspended sentence. That threat should hopefully ensure he behaves for the rest of the year.

It show where we are as a society when we have to spend page after page discussing a player p1ssing on a window. We hero-worship these guys way too much.


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Another SEN rumour: $5000 fine and has to team up with Christine Nixon on Dancing with the Stars.


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For example does your moral fibre accept something like using another poster's jokes and news on other forums without attribution? :wink: :wink:

Anytime someone asks me where I heard something I tell them. But yeah, definite correlation between that and making an drunken arse of myself. Especially given how famous a guy I am.


OK, so representing news as your own when it isn't is Ok then. :wink:

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you know, I heard that............ nah... wont go there.

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OK, so representing news as your own when it isn't is Ok then. :wink:

The problem with this being that it never happened. Edited just for you Jars

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For example does your moral fibre accept something like using another poster's jokes and news on other forums without attribution? :wink: :wink:

I think it was either once or twice I didn't mention the source, more out of negligence than anything else, and am much more careful now. Definite epidemic, my rampage must be stopped. Besides, anytime someone asks me where I heard something I tell them. But yeah, definite correlation between that and making an drunken arse of myself. Especially given how famous a guy I am. No need to target the argument when you can just target the person.


But by all means don't let facts get in the way of a good story. Especially considering how courageous, mature and relevant it is to take a crack at me for something totally irrelevant just because I disagree with you.

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I would love for this bloke to be suspended for a few matches in 4 or so and someone else step up to the plate and bag 4-5 goals a week

The idiot might then wake up to himself


Should have traded him - Bigger cancer than Campo ever was

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I think Fev should donate his match fees this week to me.

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He doesn't have anything much to answer for, so logic would suggest he won't receive any sort of punishment.

Can anyone confirm that there is a curfew at Carlton he was breaking? I haven't heard it mentioned before that we have a curfew. Does this mean Fevola has to leave his own restaurant and go home so as not to break the curfew?

Fevola said without any hesitation that there would be no video footage of him urinating. There isn't any footage of him urinating anyway, so he can't be held responsible for something that is impossible to prove.

This chap who has been in the media a) wasn't injured, b) didn't call the cops, c) is not making assault charges, and d) has played the incident up to the media to great effect.

No patrons have come forward in the media to back up claims that Fevola was urinating on the window.

The CCTV footage does not show Fevola urinating on the window.

All up there was a bit of a push and shove which was all over very quickly and Fevola moved on.

There have been no reports in the media about Fevola being blind drunk, either at the cafe or anywhere else in Melbourne. He was out late, with his wife, but as has been suggested they have a business which opens until late at night. If 1 and a half hours after the incident Fevola was still out and about, one would think he would be completely off his face by 5.30am yet nowehere has this been reported.

It's quite possible that after work Fevola likes to unwind, which could mean staying up for a while after the restaurant is closed. It's irrelevant what time he stays up to. Lots of people who work into the night don't just go home and go to bed. Saturday night would be the restaurant's busiest night too, so it's no wonder he and his wife were winding down. They may have only closed up a couple of hours before. Either way, it's got nothing to do with anyone here how late Fevola stays up.

There really isn't a case to answer to. There wasn't even a fight. Pushing someone who was abusing you verbally can lead to a fight, but it didn't, sane heads prevailed and there was no incident. This wally from the cafe just wants to get his 15 minutes of fame.


According to this article with Carazzo, who sounds light years more mature than Fev, there is no rules in place just an expectation that players will put the team first -
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"It's a situation where we're expected to be responsible at the club and do the best for ourselves and our team."


http://carltonfc.com.au/tabid/4311/Default.aspx?newsid=56484

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I think Fev should donate his match fees this week to me.


you only get paid them if you play so I doubt Fev will be playing this week so you will get nothing :lol:

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