it's true. i remember hearing hamil and voss got into it after a loss earlier in the season (pies, i think) about the way we play/ tactics/ move the ball.

there's not much harmony inside our club right now.

Storm in a teacup, you could see Voss smirk as he said it, he backs his captain to do the right thing.

He then says “Cripps needs to know when to inject himself back into the game for the big moments”, which he did in the last when he won a number of centre clearances when the game was in the line.

Move on, nothing to see here….

What did he disobey? He attended every centre bounce in the 3rd term. At times when he took himself out of the midfield for a short rest forward, we actually took back a bit of momentum. Do you want him to play 100% of the game on ball? I'm sure the coaches don't and I certainly don't want him to.
Bruce was wrong and Voss humoured him. And maybe you are too?
But don't let reality get in the way of a good conspiracy.

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Yeah Sin's , a storm in a teacup . Last thing we need is a robot skipper . Good leadership for mine . A Captain's call on the run . Good stuff .

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Is that Bruce McAvaney or some AI generated image of his ghost. A while since I've seen c7

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Against coaches wishes is the wrong take.
They clearly have an understanding that Cripps will rotate fwd to give others a go and himself a break.
Voss alluded there that perhaps Cripps should have been aware to get himself back in the middle at a time.
So it's not against "orders". Maybe Voss was "wishing" Cripps would go back to the middle without needing to be told which is different.

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Disobeying you say Could you pinpoint exactly where in the video snippet that is factual?

Regards Cazzesman

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Do tell Braithy. Is there more you can add to that suggestion?

Regards Cazzesman

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pretty sure mick knows about this too? i was talking to someone here about it.

a haymaker that missed, was swung, that's how heated it got. hamil isn't in love with how we play, our structure etc and put it on voss after the game. voss objected and swung but missed by the length of the straight at flemington.

... it does suggest a greater disharmony and disconnect among players and coaching. i think we're seeing it unfold right now in real time - a bunch of our leaders and better players, playing like they aren't in love with footy, or the club. or at the least, distracted.

What happens in the shed stays in the shed . The only thing I will say , yes , it was heated . Mind you , that sort of thing has been going on for years in Footy Clubs from the highest level right down to your under 9"s at your local footy club . It aint unusual no matter what the level . They are big boys and they have moved on , no hard feelings . Faaark , I can't think of anything worse than them all sitting around the white board and agreeing with each other . Robust debate is good .

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What the ferk would Aaron Hamill know about it?

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even if it's the same as all (or most, at least) of us here, it's enough.

we aren't playing well. we are way below expectations. something needs to change and fast before whole careers amount to nothing and another generation passes by without any success.

passion and competitiveness is a good thing, i would have thought?


voss is known league wide for being ridiculously stubborn.

hey, i got a story for you. the same knock was on hardwick before the tigers success. and funnily enough hardwick was about to be sacked one offseason. he made his case in the end of season reviews; and tigers gave him one more year, make or break, but if it's more of the same old shit, he'll be gone by midseason.

the offseason before hardwick went to america and visited other sporting clubs, spoke with sports departments and filled his knowledge with better ways of running the club. he was frustrated the club wasn't humming with all the things put into place.

the 2016 offseason he headed to a spiritual retreat. and then after spent his time seeing various psychologists, sports and personal. he came back that offseason with a better understanding of how to teach young men. how to relate to them, how to speak and ultimately how to get the best out of them.

tigers won the flag that year. many around the club say hardwick won the hearts and minds of the playing group that year and each player to a man overachieved bcos of the belief hardwick instilled.

wayne bennett the most winningest nrl coach, also did something similar with the denver broncos in the 90's and spent time with sports psychologists there as they were one of the first clubs ever to employ one FT.

people/ coaches can evolve and can change if they want it enough.



... back to voss. from the outside looking in, voss spending his bye week in fiji, is a bit on the nose, and the way we played last night suggests nothing has changed with the club - unlike 2023, when a noticeable shift took place after camp curnow.

whether or not voss has lost the group, or he himself is resigned to the coaching wreck heap at season end when/ if wright cuts him free ... i guess we don't know. but we can all surely agree the club isn't humming. players look unhappy, voss looks bereft and confused and the fans are tired.

Here's the secret vision of Damien Hardwick in the 2016 off season that you speak of....

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Given Dimma’s form with masseuses, I hope they replaced the fish…

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"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter" - Winston Churchill.

Heard the same thing very heated and physical was mentioned.

Was after Tigers game I think though.

Got shot down for it of coarse..

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That's a bit rough

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His Nigerian pen pal has stopped writing back.

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Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end

hahahaha

Yeah , Max Gawn and Steven May say hi .

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Yes, at least 6 players will be needing those at the end of the season.