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Yes we are 7 & 13 going gang busters

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:39 pm 
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Thomas ankle a medial strain, totally unrelated to his previous injury. Now all you hysterical types can stop frothing at your mouth, say your sorry, and admit that the club got it right about his ankle. Eddie even admitted it during the week. Another malthouse failure apparently, according to some, well in my books the injury factor is now OFF the table. We can debate value , but the reality is that is the free agency world that we all live in. Thats a different debate.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:40 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Yes we are 7 & 13 going gang busters


Syd, the trend is your friend.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:48 pm 
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Thomas ankle a medial strain, totally unrelated to his previous injury. Now all you hysterical types can stop frothing at your mouth, say your sorry, and admit that the club got it right about his ankle. Eddie even admitted it during the week. Another malthouse failure apparently, according to some, well in my books the injury factor is now OFF the table. We can debate value , but the reality is that is the free agency world that we all live in. Thats a different debate.



we're wrong it's not his ankle holding him back

he's just shit :lol:

700k tagger or floating hb :donk:

were are the hb/f recruiting knockers now :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:50 pm 
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Reality is Mick is just a grumpy old man who has lost the players :wink:
He just wants our money!!
The book tour, remember that!!
And those sausage sizzles. That's all he can offer!!
He should be more friendly to those great journos in Stevo, Robbo, Rohan and Chompers. They ve done nothing to upset me and he just attacks them for nothing.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:51 pm 
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Been a disappointing year, no doubt and I for 1 have maintained throughout that the list is better than it's showing.
Having said all that, Malthouse gets a lot of credit over the past 6-8 weeks. He has installed a work ethic that I feel we haven't seen in this group. He has twicked the game plan to utilise our playing groups strengths. He has given them a more defensive edge. He has setup a better forward structure to allow us to go to KP forward. He has done a fair bit and it's obvious.

The test will come next year when the team has something to play for and must produce this all again at that time. That is going to be were he finally gets marked at. I believe in these players and I feel finally they believe in themselves, the coach and game plan. I want success god damit and maybe just maybe we are starting to see the light.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:56 pm 
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padre wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Yes we are 7 & 13 going gang busters


Syd, the trend is your friend.

Since when has football become about individual performance.
Its a team game and this team is not measuring up.
So we give Malthouse heaps of praise because certain individuals are playing better than last year.
The team is not winning enough games its really that simple.

Lets take one player who everyone says has come on in leaps and bounds under Malthouse and thats Levi.
Look at his stats over the last 3 years they are nearly identical.
He is getting 1 more possession than his last 2 years. He is averaging 0.5 marks more than he did in the 6 games he had under Ratten. He is getting less hitouts and kicking less goals per game than what he did in his first 6 games

Where is the improvement
Most other players are the same and the team has plummeted.

Dont tell me Malthouse is doing a good job because he isnt

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:04 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Been a disappointing year, no doubt and I for 1 have maintained throughout that the list is better than it's showing.
Having said all that, Malthouse gets a lot of credit over the past 6-8 weeks. He has installed a work ethic that I feel we haven't seen in this group. He has twicked the game plan to utilise our playing groups strengths. He has given them a more defensive edge. He has setup a better forward structure to allow us to go to KP forward. He has done a fair bit and it's obvious.
The test will come next year when the team has something to play for and must produce this all again at that time. That is going to be were he finally gets marked at. I believe in these players and I feel finally they believe in themselves, the coach and game plan. I want success god damit and maybe just maybe we are starting to see the light.



astute coaching in the last month or so, no

malthouse putting a great case for an extension contract building up our future (after tearing it down for two years)
sounds like a teenager after his first kiss when you listen to him, almost frothing at the mouth
what a great job he's done for the future of the cfc,
just wants to be apart of it and the great list of individuals he's assembled :lol:

must be buying into his great game plan :donk:


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:08 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
padre wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Yes we are 7 & 13 going gang busters


Syd, the trend is your friend.

Since when has football become about individual performance.
Its a team game and this team is not measuring up.
So we give Malthouse heaps of praise because certain individuals are playing better than last year.
The team is not winning enough games its really that simple.

Lets take one player who everyone says has come on in leaps and bounds under Malthouse and thats Levi.
Look at his stats over the last 3 years they are nearly identical.
He is getting 1 more possession than his last 2 years. He is averaging 0.5 marks more than he did in the 6 games he had under Ratten. He is getting less hitouts and kicking less goals per game than what he did in his first 6 games

Where is the improvement
Most other players are the same and the team has plummeted.

Dont tell me Malthouse is doing a good job because he isnt


Have to agree re Levi

People rarely look at the numbers

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:18 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
padre wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Yes we are 7 & 13 going gang busters


Syd, the trend is your friend.

Since when has football become about individual performance.
Its a team game and this team is not measuring up.
So we give Malthouse heaps of praise because certain individuals are playing better than last year.
The team is not winning enough games its really that simple.

Lets take one player who everyone says has come on in leaps and bounds under Malthouse and thats Levi.
Look at his stats over the last 3 years they are nearly identical.
He is getting 1 more possession than his last 2 years. He is averaging 0.5 marks more than he did in the 6 games he had under Ratten. He is getting less hitouts and kicking less goals per game than what he did in his first 6 games

Where is the improvement
Most other players are the same and the team has plummeted.

Dont tell me Malthouse is doing a good job because he isnt


Has Levi reached his threshold?

Has the club signed him up?

Will the club look to trade him out?

The hysteria around Levi being the best mark in the comp was crazy.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:17 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
padre wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Yes we are 7 & 13 going gang busters


Syd, the trend is your friend.

Since when has football become about individual performance.
Its a team game and this team is not measuring up.
So we give Malthouse heaps of praise because certain individuals are playing better than last year.
The team is not winning enough games its really that simple.

Lets take one player who everyone says has come on in leaps and bounds under Malthouse and thats Levi.
Look at his stats over the last 3 years they are nearly identical.
He is getting 1 more possession than his last 2 years. He is averaging 0.5 marks more than he did in the 6 games he had under Ratten. He is getting less hitouts and kicking less goals per game than what he did in his first 6 games

Where is the improvement
Most other players are the same and the team has plummeted.

Dont tell me Malthouse is doing a good job because he isnt


We have lost 6 games by less than two goals. This is the challenge for next season, be like Geelong and win the close games.
MM has openly stated that it is not bad luck, it is primarily decision making and leadership.
Fix this and the problem is solved, if we don't then we are going nowhere. We won't move forward until we fix this!


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:36 pm 
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woof wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
padre wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Yes we are 7 & 13 going gang busters


Syd, the trend is your friend.

Since when has football become about individual performance.
Its a team game and this team is not measuring up.
So we give Malthouse heaps of praise because certain individuals are playing better than last year.
The team is not winning enough games its really that simple.

Lets take one player who everyone says has come on in leaps and bounds under Malthouse and thats Levi.
Look at his stats over the last 3 years they are nearly identical.
He is getting 1 more possession than his last 2 years. He is averaging 0.5 marks more than he did in the 6 games he had under Ratten. He is getting less hitouts and kicking less goals per game than what he did in his first 6 games

Where is the improvement
Most other players are the same and the team has plummeted.

Dont tell me Malthouse is doing a good job because he isnt


We have lost 6 games by less than two goals. This is the challenge for next season, be like Geelong and win the close games.
MM has openly stated that it is not bad luck, it is primarily decision making and leadership.
Fix this and the problem is solved, if we don't then we are going nowhere. We won't move forward until we fix this!

Maybe that decision making and lack of leadership was in the coaches box

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:20 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
woof wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
padre wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Yes we are 7 & 13 going gang busters


Syd, the trend is your friend.

Since when has football become about individual performance.
Its a team game and this team is not measuring up.
So we give Malthouse heaps of praise because certain individuals are playing better than last year.
The team is not winning enough games its really that simple.

Lets take one player who everyone says has come on in leaps and bounds under Malthouse and thats Levi.
Look at his stats over the last 3 years they are nearly identical.
He is getting 1 more possession than his last 2 years. He is averaging 0.5 marks more than he did in the 6 games he had under Ratten. He is getting less hitouts and kicking less goals per game than what he did in his first 6 games

Where is the improvement
Most other players are the same and the team has plummeted.

Dont tell me Malthouse is doing a good job because he isnt


We have lost 6 games by less than two goals. This is the challenge for next season, be like Geelong and win the close games.
MM has openly stated that it is not bad luck, it is primarily decision making and leadership.
Fix this and the problem is solved, if we don't then we are going nowhere. We won't move forward until we fix this!

Maybe that decision making and lack of leadership was in the coaches box


If a game is going down to the wire it is the actions of the players in the last few minutes which determine the outcome and not the coaches box. Coaches will generally put the phone down and just watch, last week Ross Lyon walked out of the box in the last minutes of the Cats v Freo game. The coaches come into the equation during the week/on the track, so from a tactical point of view they need to drill the players as to what should be happening in those situations.
Simpson took the kick out with a minute and half to go, the shortest way home was through the middle, I was right behind the play when this was unfolding and Simpson had no tall guy to kick too so chose to go to Docherty on the flank. When Docherty got the ball he had Wood and Casboult as marking options on his wing, he looked at them and decided to go to the other flank. Once this happened it was game over.
It is a combination of players and coaching, that is why Geelong, Hawthorn etc. are were they are and Carlton is were it is.


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redback wrote:
padre wrote:
Thomas ankle a medial strain, totally unrelated to his previous injury. Now all you hysterical types can stop frothing at your mouth, say your sorry, and admit that the club got it right about his ankle. Eddie even admitted it during the week. Another malthouse failure apparently, according to some, well in my books the injury factor is now OFF the table. We can debate value , but the reality is that is the free agency world that we all live in. Thats a different debate.



we're wrong it's not his ankle holding him back

he's just shit :lol:

700k tagger or floating hb :donk:

were are the hb/f recruiting knockers now :lol:


to be fair , Daisy is a sort of expensive royal forward pocket player who doesnt kick goals (like a Fraser Murphy but extremely expensive and high maintenance).

A little bit like his old man Mick, an expensive royal coach who cant win games (bit like a Tim Watson or Kevin Bartlett but extremely expensive)

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:01 pm 
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Cretylus wrote:
A little bit like his old man Mick, an expensive royal coach who cant win games (bit like a Tim Watson or Kevin Bartlett but extremely expensive)


3 flags coaching between those 3, a bit harsh.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:13 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Been a disappointing year, no doubt and I for 1 have maintained throughout that the list is better than it's showing.
Having said all that, Malthouse gets a lot of credit over the past 6-8 weeks. He has installed a work ethic that I feel we haven't seen in this group. He has twicked the game plan to utilise our playing groups strengths. He has given them a more defensive edge. He has setup a better forward structure to allow us to go to KP forward. He has done a fair bit and it's obvious.

The test will come next year when the team has something to play for and must produce this all again at that time. That is going to be were he finally gets marked at. I believe in these players and I feel finally they believe in themselves, the coach and game plan. I want success god damit and maybe just maybe we are starting to see the light.


good perspective. agree with the balanced arguement :clap:


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:15 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
padre wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Yes we are 7 & 13 going gang busters


Syd, the trend is your friend.

Since when has football become about individual performance.
Its a team game and this team is not measuring up.
So we give Malthouse heaps of praise because certain individuals are playing better than last year.
The team is not winning enough games its really that simple.

Lets take one player who everyone says has come on in leaps and bounds under Malthouse and thats Levi.
Look at his stats over the last 3 years they are nearly identical.
He is getting 1 more possession than his last 2 years. He is averaging 0.5 marks more than he did in the 6 games he had under Ratten. He is getting less hitouts and kicking less goals per game than what he did in his first 6 games

Where is the improvement
Most other players are the same and the team has plummeted.

Dont tell me Malthouse is doing a good job because he isnt


stats, stats, stats

try and convince me that the quality of his possessions hasnt improved ie the value to the team effort


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:36 pm 
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Absolute rubbish using possession count to judge Levi's improvement. Fitness and goalkicking just for starters. Then there is his work off the ball and he rucks.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:03 pm 
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Michael Jezz wrote:
Absolute rubbish using possession count to judge Levi's improvement. Fitness and goalkicking just for starters. Then there is his work off the ball and he rucks.

Yes its a bit like using a win/ loss ratio to determine the teams improvement.
We are sliding down the ladder but FMD they are playing good footy
Absolute rubbish to use goals scored for and against of a measure on how the teams going we are winning and improving in all aspects of the game except the scoreboard

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