DesEnglish wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
DesEnglish wrote:
I’ve asked a couple of times, what attributes does he have that makes people think he’s good enough?
Well for starters he has a record of 42-35-1, so he is winning more than he is losing.
While I dislike his need to only make small team variations after a loss, I understand that it is a very measured approach.
He seems to have the players on-board which is his main role, we haven't had too many players wanting to leave because of him, if any that are key players for that matter.
He is respected at the club and in the AFL, he has had premiership success as a player and understands the work and luck to win one.
The biggest hang up most people have of him is he doesn't make enough tactical changes during a game.
While I don't agree with this I also don't disagree.
He has made changes, some have worked and probably more have not.
On the sidelines we all have our opinions but it is he who knows his players best and what they can and can not do.
Plus our incredible run with injuries, lack of depth, lack of speed and skill and lack of A grade multi position players has really made a lot of tactical decisions not possible.
I mean we are on here talking about moving Saad up forwards because of lack of talent.
Our motto should be, We rob Peter to pay Paul.
Wright's first job is to add another ex-AFL coach, like the Pies and Melbourne have done.
Simpson would be great.
I think we also need a measured approach as a club, change some of the players, add depth and see what he can do with a healthy more versatile list.
Like I said before, I don't rate Chris Scott as a coach, but you can see what is possible with a list like he's had.
And Voss put him to the sword last game, he clearly out coached a premiership coach.
Thanks for taking the time, I do appreciate it.
My issue with Voss is that we lack a hard edge, which is what I expected from him. Too often our players are manhandled and there’s zero response. That’s a standard and I expect him to drive that (given what he was like as a player).
I also worry that the side doesn’t seem to be able to get all aspects to work, we constantly over correct and finish up exposed in an area that was formerly a strength. I get he’s not responsible for the individual plays, but he is accountable for how we play, and we suck.
Some of it is definitely the players and those available but I don’t accept that he has no say in the types that we recruit and the players, and in turn the way we play is a result of his vision.
I don’t think he’ll turn it around and I’m not confident that he’ll take advice or change his ways.
Voss was a contested beast, but I don't really recall him getting in there to fight other players, that was your Scott brothers, Akermanis, Pike (both wingers mind you) etc. IIRC.
He was a hard nut and if you watch Crippa, Hewett, Cerra and Walsh, they're all tough players that put their bodies on the line.
I must admit, it does annoy me also when we let the kids get manhandled with little to no response.
But is that the type of players we have? You can't just make someone become a person that sees red and loses it.
That is learnt in your formative years and is very hard to change as an adult, without experiencing some traumatic event.
Maybe that is what we need to do......................just joking.
This gets bought up a lot that last season we were great in attack and this season we are great in defence.
Firstly, JSOS has been moved down back, his IQ is severely underrated as well as his on-field leadership.
Secondly we lost Owies, a smart defensive footballer who also had great on-field leadership.
Fantasia, another smart footballer has not played yet.
Martin, a very smart footballer is not at the club.
Elijah has had his issues and is another smart footballer with skills.
That is a lot of mature leadership that is missing in the F50.
We then have Charlie and Harry who are both great footballers and forwards but are not leaders, Jeremy Cameron has this in spades over the both of them.
And as Voss has stated himself, you can work all week to get the players ready for the game but once they cross that line you can't do too much.
At some point the payers need to take the reins.
Like myself, Bondi and others have been saying, if we have little to no injuries we are in for a chance.
This alone speaks of our lack of depth, everyone knows it inside the AFL.
As for Voss changing his ways, I don't actually think he needs to.
He does need better depth and support around him though.
Killing coaches is what we do best and until he is proven to not have the players on side then he is doing his job IMO.
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