The difference I can see is Port Adelaide seem to be enjoying their footy.

With us they dont seem to enjoying themselves, no real enthusiasm.

Hard to figure out whats going on really.

Their passions seem to lay elsewhere, business, money, family etc Its not a bad thing, but they dont understand what is required to be successful.

Like Yarran said, we have not been switched on. So Why is that ?

That's wrong. We don't have anyone on the list with Wingard's talent, and we'd be hard pressed to have someone at Hartlett's level. Wines, Polec, I could go on. All of them are better than anyone we have drafted in the last five years. On a talent level menzel might be in that ballpark, but for whatever reason is limited to 20 minutes a game. These guys are running 120 minutes every week.

Hinkley is doing a fantastic job, without question. But he had a very handy group of players to start with, and as a club they got the best in the business at getting their players physically ready to perform every week.

Lots of reasons, imo.

No culture at the club, no camaraderie among the players. They don't hang out in their spare time, no bonding. But maybe the biggest reason is there's a disconnect with the coaching staff and the playing group.

I thought they loved malthouse and wiley ?

But yeh seems like the players dont really hang out.

Me too. Thing is, they definitely don't play like they love them.

..menz was a couple/few years behind his peers in regards to being 'Afl ready' due to the knee reco's/injuries.. ..it wasn't just the risk of reinjury, but the fact he was years behind the rest in development/fitness.. ..talent and work ethic are high, but fitness was very low meaning it will take him a few years to catch up, won't see him cement a regular place for another year a least..

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I remember reading a pre draft summary … may have been written by Emma speculating that we were considering Dunstan depending on how the draft unravelled. Has anyone seen the kid play. If my memory serves me correct, the kid had according to reputation strong leadership credentials but there were question marks as to his pace. We picked Cripps at 13 and Dunstan got picked up by St Kilda at 18. Still too early to make a call but I will be watching the two boys closely.

From a humble fan prospective, Malthouse lost me when he had both Brock and Heath Scotland for a centre bounce against Collingwood. With that thinking can't see our youth gaining some much needed experience in what is a dead rubber season.

I expect Gibbs to play a blinder. Normally does against weaker oppositions. I hope we try Walker up forward because I can't see us kicking a winning score otherwise.

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WTF was this? Worst press conference ever....

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Terrible.

Cool hoodie though!

In my humble opinion we stuffed up not getting Dunstan, the Cripps recruitment is very boom or bust.

..wrong call regarding scotto and brick at centre bounce, the more numbers we run through the middle the better, by increasing numbers thru the middle young and old get a stoppage, but riddle me this.. ..who are the Young midfielders..?..

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Graham and Menzel should be getting exposure in the middle alongside a fitter Cripps. Neither Scotto or Brock will be playing for us beyond the year so why were they getting opportunities when the game was already lost and we were still getting beaten out in the middle? I would love to throw Tuohy in the centre clearances along with Walker to break the lines as an alternative to the very slow Scotto Brock combo.

I am talking overall list, not the youngsters.
You would think with Judd, Murphy, Gibbs, Jamison, Brock, Carrazo, Simpson, Walker, Brock, Waite, Henderson just to name the obvious, we would have a better list than Port right now.

Yeah Wingard is a star on the up, saw a quarter and half of him on the weekend. Reminded me of Eddie Betts and when Garlett is on song. Small forward kicking goals with a good mark.

..crisps will get his chances, but is a mile off being afl ready.. ..menz isn't (yet/ever?) a midfielder, and not fit enough to play as one, he has had thë odd run thru thë middle.. ..graham hasn't looked settled at all at afl level an looks lost in regards to the tempo, vfl is way below afl level.. ..touhy only bet in middle would bë tagger, reads play at hb but gets lost up field in thë more circular aspect of play..

..we don't have many young mids at all, as plenty have said, cupboard be bare..

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Menzel has got one of the cleanest pair of hands at the club, is prepared to throw his body at the ball and his delivery is as good as anyone's at the club. Graham is not ready however wouldn't you rather play him to accelerate his development at the AFL standard when a result is not in doubt?
Tuohy is a physical type who rarely loses one on one contests. Gets exposed in the air so a midfield run with role would be perfect. Unlike Bell can also hit a target.

Still can't see the logic in persevering with Scotto and Brock? It is Paganesque in its conservatism.

I wonder who or how many late outs we have for tonight? Seems to be matter of course these days doesnt it.

..brock has been in and out of side, scotto used as a rookie to help out in bit parts in final year, part of 3rd string bit part midfield rotation.. ..menz might have good skills, but his great footy nous is as a hf type, in second part of career he might move into midfield, why don't we continue his development in his natural role, before we start adding extra on to him, especially with his low fitness base.. ..I newsstand where you are coming from, but we can't force things jus cos we are frustrated..

..if graham is not ready, he is not ready.. ..we are giving youth and inexperienced players the opportunity.. ..if we play too many, it becomes counterproductive..

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Forgot about tonight

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

BTW forget about Cripps playing the next couple of months. He has broken his fibula.

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Caught it from Curnow

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