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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:50 am 
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Oh God. Please don't play Lucas. We play better without him.


I wouldn't be bringing McLean back either. And that's not just because I don't like him (credit where credit is due...... he has been pretty handy this year). I just don't think it's worth the risk to bring him back early and then have him break down again.

Judd is really the only change I would make.


P.S> Really excited to see how Bell performs in a final. I have high hopes.

never think the obvious ... everybody else is thinking that as well....

Lucas is perfect for this game.. hes been frustrated playing ressies for being a wimp ... he will even tackle extra hard and put his head over the ball...but he would add heaps of run think mitch morton in last years gf...who would have thought???? :thumbsup:

by the same token .. juddy is struggling with his run... and kicking.. take 20% off and you render him useless...you cant go into big games like this.. you have to trust your recruiters... :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:23 am 
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I don't think the Tiges have much to fear. They have been primed for this game for the last month. Managing players, managing the teams overall fitness and staying mentally focussed. We have been a mess and have struggles week after week to scrap out a result.

Our only chance is if we throw out the play book and make a comeback similar to the one last week. Risk after risk coming off.

If it comes down to systems and which team has theirs in order we don't stand a chance.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:34 am 
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I love this cliffhanger brand of football we have been playing lately.
I've had to drink quite solidly following each match to calm down.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:35 am 
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club29 wrote:
I don't think the Tiges have much to fear. They have been primed for this game for the last month. Managing players, managing the teams overall fitness and staying mentally focussed. We have been a mess and have struggles week after week to scrap out a result.

Our only chance is if we throw out the play book and make a comeback similar to the one last week. Risk after risk coming off.

If it comes down to systems and which team has theirs in order we don't stand a chance.


They live in fear of the Blues.
They'll choke.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:03 am 
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club29 wrote:
I don't think the Tiges have much to fear. They have been primed for this game for the last month. Managing players, managing the teams overall fitness and staying mentally focussed. We have been a mess and have struggles week after week to scrap out a result.

Our only chance is if we throw out the play book and make a comeback similar to the one last week. Risk after risk coming off.

If it comes down to systems and which team has theirs in order we don't stand a chance.



You sound like the media this week, everyone and their dog has jumped on the Tigers feel-good train. They've even interviewed random Richmond fans on the National News.

We're even money to beat these wankers.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:09 am 
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Wojee wrote:
club29 wrote:
I don't think the Tiges have much to fear. They have been primed for this game for the last month. Managing players, managing the teams overall fitness and staying mentally focussed. We have been a mess and have struggles week after week to scrap out a result.

Our only chance is if we throw out the play book and make a comeback similar to the one last week. Risk after risk coming off.

If it comes down to systems and which team has theirs in order we don't stand a chance.



You sound like the media this week, everyone and their dog has jumped on the Tigers feel-good train. They've even interviewed random Richmond fans on the National News.

We're even money to beat these wankers.



Oh, and if we do there are a couple of people who gloated on Facebook after round 1 who'll be getting it back with interest, particularly seeing that they'd never indicated they were even interested in footy before then.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:21 am 
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Can we please not let Vickery have his birthday for the third time this year?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:28 am 
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Game will be played above the shoulders.

How will they cope with the expectation of trying erase the last 12 year's of failure?

How will we cope coming off last week in what could be classed as our Elimination final?

Recent history says we will cope better with going into a game that is a nothing to lose free hit, rather than it being 'season defining'.

Need to start well. Need to put doubts in their head.

ABNS likened it to 2011, but the roles reversed and whilst I can see the comparison I reckon the fact our guys had at least played in 2 previous finals series helped us especially being able to steady and regroup after Essendon* kicked the first 3.

What we bring will be anyone's guess. It changes from quarter to quarter let alone week to week.

It's crazy to think that after all the crap (a lot deserved) we have copped, compared to the all the adulation they have received (a lot deserved), that here we are playing a knockout final on a neutral venue.

For the first time, I'm actually looking forward to a final rather than fearing the consequences of a loss.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:37 am 
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dane wrote:
club29 wrote:
I don't think the Tiges have much to fear. They have been primed for this game for the last month. Managing players, managing the teams overall fitness and staying mentally focussed. We have been a mess and have struggles week after week to scrap out a result.

Our only chance is if we throw out the play book and make a comeback similar to the one last week. Risk after risk coming off.

If it comes down to systems and which team has theirs in order we don't stand a chance.


They live in fear of the Blues.
They'll choke.


Fingers crossed.

It will take a massice choke though. They seem to not let their emotions get to them much this year and rely on their system which seems to get them by.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:39 am 
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..no doubt we match up very well against them in some areas.. ..jamo has J8's measure.... ..Maric gets beaten vs Krooz and also vs Knockers.. ..one of our small fwds usually has a day out against them, and it's usually a game Waite plays well in as well.. ..we've also played a lot of one on one type footy this season, were'as they actually haven't and don't normally play a high intensity pressure game..

..i reckon they've got a tonne of pressure on their backs heading into this..

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:46 am 
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club29 wrote:
I don't think the Tiges have much to fear. They have been primed for this game for the last month. Managing players, managing the teams overall fitness and staying mentally focussed. We have been a mess and have struggles week after week to scrap out a result.

Our only chance is if we throw out the play book and make a comeback similar to the one last week. Risk after risk coming off.

If it comes down to systems and which team has theirs in order we don't stand a chance.

Maybe. But no matter how good their systems are, in football (particularly finals football), 90% of it is above the shoulders. And I reckon Richmond's problem is they haven't played finals in so long that just making them is the achievement. And that means as long as we make it a contest in the first half we'll win. They can try and dress it up otherwise but the minute they cross the white paint in September they've met their goal. And because of that, when it gets hard in the 3rd/4th their players will hesitate because on some level they'll believe they've done enough for this year. And by the time they regain their composure we'll have kicked away. Last week showed 5-10 mins is all we'll need.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:57 am 
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club29 wrote:
I don't think the Tiges have much to fear. They have been primed for this game for the last month. Managing players, managing the teams overall fitness and staying mentally focussed. We have been a mess and have struggles week after week to scrap out a result.

Our only chance is if we throw out the play book and make a comeback similar to the one last week. Risk after risk coming off.

If it comes down to systems and which team has theirs in order we don't stand a chance.


So they have been playing this final in their minds for over a month? They must be mentally exhausted ;-)

Over prepared is just as bad as under prepared.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:01 am 
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Malthouse looks pumped. He's coached 50+ finals, he's our weapon, it's why we brought him in, thank goodness the players got us there to see him strut his stuff on the big stage. Can't wait to see it unfold.

Hardwick finals: 0. Something to remind your Richmond mates.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:11 am 
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dane wrote:
club29 wrote:
I don't think the Tiges have much to fear. They have been primed for this game for the last month. Managing players, managing the teams overall fitness and staying mentally focussed. We have been a mess and have struggles week after week to scrap out a result.

Our only chance is if we throw out the play book and make a comeback similar to the one last week. Risk after risk coming off.

If it comes down to systems and which team has theirs in order we don't stand a chance.


They live in fear of the Blues.
They'll choke.

No, No. Apparently they beat us in finals.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:13 am 
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Blueboy74 wrote:

ABNS likened it to 2011, but the roles reversed and whilst I can see the comparison I reckon the fact our guys had at least played in 2 previous finals series helped us especially being able to steady and regroup after Essendon** kicked the first 3.

What we bring will be anyone's guess. It changes from quarter to quarter let alone week to week.



Three finals series actually: 2009, 2010 and 2011. Although Grigg played for us in the 2009 final.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:24 am 
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There is abit of Atlas going on in Tigerand this week...

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Lets see if they can hold it up......

Its going to be played in the head

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:27 am 
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Stone Free wrote:
Blueboy74 wrote:

ABNS likened it to 2011, but the roles reversed and whilst I can see the comparison I reckon the fact our guys had at least played in 2 previous finals series helped us especially being able to steady and regroup after Essendon*** kicked the first 3.

What we bring will be anyone's guess. It changes from quarter to quarter let alone week to week.



Three finals series actually: 2009, 2010 and 2011. Although Grigg played for us in the 2009 final.


Sorry. I meant that playing in 2 finals prior to 2011 helped us it that 2011 game, as apposed to Richmond in 2013 who don't have that experience to draw back on if doubts start creeping in.

Reading back I now realise I was rambling all over the place.

Synbad has whipped me into a frenzy.....

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:39 am 
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If the last three games between these tewo sides are anything to go by, there ll be several heart attacks to be had come Sunday lol.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:43 am 
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Casboult (as does McLean) always seems to play well against Richmond. I hope we play him ... but probably won't because we have Kreuzer and Warnock in the same side.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:44 am 
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Agree Tigers under mega pressure - we need a good start to really apply pressure - lets try something new kick goals in the first quarter -they are on the season 4 games better -should win the Tiges but apart from our game the last 2 haven't been a great lead in - hope mclean plays hardened finals footballer and had a birthday the last time they played


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