Had a quick look and don't think this has been posted anywhere. Worth sharing:

Sydney Swan Adam Goodes talks up Carlton superstar Chris Judd


Adam Goodes:

"He is the hardest opponent I've ever played on," Goodes said. "I remember watching him when he first burst on to the scene, I actually would look at him as someone I wanted to base my game around. His speed, his accuracy with his skills, his contested football. It's just fantastic."

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Accuracy with skills????
I think man-love has blinded him.

Lets just say that maybe Carlton have done their own planning and decided that spending time and resources trying to convert kids in Sydney into members isn't a valuable exercise and isn't the best use of resources. In that case, they did what they have decided is the best course.

Just saying.

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Maybe. Probably not the case.

I suspect that the club hasn't conducted due diligence at growing the brand interstate.

I do believe the club recognises that there's still a lot of improvement required down under in Victoria though.
There must be about 10000 supporters who were CFC members in other years but have not bought their memberships in 2011.

There's good reason why Jeannie is to head the membership department...and when she's up and running, she may look at all possible channels for growing our membership base: interstate....and hopefully internationally.

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Well, if that's the case, then Carlton will remain a 3rd-tier power in football circles for well beyond the foreseeable future. False economy.

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A very conservative line of thinking if they did decide that.

We need to nurture the great support we currently have in all states and make sure that the young sons and daughters of those supporters continue on the tradition and grow the base.

Have we ascertained if anything was done or are we just assuming that nothing was done?

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Yes, I've spoken to the club.

Now I'm just angry.

Not only was I spoken to in a fairly curt manner, I was told that all events that the Club does interstate are effectively forced on the club by the AFL.

Then I was asked "The players went up there on Thursday and played Friday, what else could we possibly have done?", and "The players were back in Melbourne Saturday night", and that even though there was a longer break until the next match, The AFL would not let any other event take place and the AFL arranges and organises every event.

Then, as a lovely turd on top of the cowpat cake I'd just been served, the person insisted that the club has ZERO input into fixturing, and Carlton just gets told where we will play and when. When I said "So you're telling me that Collingwood just gets told 'Hey guys, you're getting 16 MCG matches this year'?", her response was "Yes".

I got put through to that doyen of un-communications, Ian Coutts' voicemail after that and have left him a message (yes, it's polite....) and asked for him to call me back when it's convenient.


To sum up, it's actually worse than the way I portrayed it.

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

Zero input into fixturing?

No idea, and clearly no initiative on the part of the person you spoke to. That's horrifying that the individual doesn't even seem to grasp the basics of the industry she's in.

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It looks like the AFL are trying to stop clubs promoting themselves up in Sydney to provide GWS maximium exposure.

Might be worth a phone call to AFL house to substantiate the claims of 'AFL control'.

That's not necessary; the individual on the phone sounds like a muppet.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Not surprised by any of that.

We don't control our website
We have little control over merchandise.
We submit a wish list for fixturing, we could request a game in Sydney each year, doesn't mean it'd be granted. Collingwood get 16 games at the MCG because crowds and other teams wanting to play a home game against them dictate that.

With regards to planning events, given the way the AFL control everything else...that woudn't surprise me one bit.

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I agree with this. It was a great game by a great player but there is too much emphasis on it. I think the media do it because it's an easy story, familiar to everyone, easy to digest etc. And they probably don't want to admit that we've improved as a team and that we might actually be a contender. Such poor analysis in the press.

Sometimes I feel there is too much Judd lauding from people within the club too. It creates the impression of a man apart. I hope it's not the case. Bomber Thompson seemed to always be emphasising the team over any individual performance, especially from Ablett when that's all anyone wanted to talk about. That was obviously complex but i reckon voices from within Carlton should be doing more of that. We are too quick to single Judd out from the pack and it doesn't seem healthy to me.

Maybe it's not an issue on the inside, I wouldnt know. Just an outsider's observation.

I watched the 2nd half again. I think Judd's influence has been overstated.
Our fightback started in the 3rd and he wasn't instrumental in that.
In the last he was getting clearance after clearance but of our 4 goals, he had no influence on 2 of them and had a participation that was important in the other 2.

The way commentators portray it, without him we would have lost. He takes up 12-15% of our salary cap. If he wasn't there, there'd be another handy player or 2.

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Well the AFL wants us to believe that there is no bias whatsoever in the fixture, so I wouldn't think it to be a huge surprise someone from an AFL club is telling you that they have zero input in their club's fixture.

I'm going to upset the cart here.

The club can do at most 1 session in Sydney. At their own cost.

GWS and Sydney are funded to do 100s. They probably have an employee who co-ordinates school and club visits full time.

It'll be like pouring a bottle of red food dye in Sydney Harbour and waiting for the colour to change. We are better off concentrating our resources in Victoria, the return will be far higher. The AFL want all uncommited fans in NSW to go GWS or Sydney. I think you'll find even Colonwood and Essendum won't be doing anything anymore.

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When you boil it down, the AFL is a product, like a camera. The Clubs are all selling us a similar product. One club is Canon, another Nikon and another again Pentax etc.

One of the cardinal rules of sales is product knowledge. The Club/s are failing if they don't inform and educate their staff with product knowledge, so they can then sell the product to the public and members. Even going to the length of having some standard answers ready for FAQs asked by callers about a wide range of things involving the club and the viewing/buying public.

We keep being told that the AFL is a professional game now, and that clubs are multi-million dollar companies. If so, why is that supposed professionalism not reflected by the staff? That then gives a very poor and amateur reflection on the club, IMO.

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

Fair points about the Swans and GWS and their funding, which comes from the NSW/ACT AFL.

But pour a bottle of food dye in the harbour and no the colour won't change, but pour one now, then another in a little while, and so on, and then before you realise you'll notice a change. Add to that adding more colour via club affiliation, and results will happen more readily than you might think.

So far the attitude is "It's all too hard, so let's not even bother trying". It's just the absolutely wrong way to go about it.

It's like "How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time"

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

Thats fair enough but surely we should be nurturing our own current support so the baton is passed to their next generations ?