R9: Carlton v Hawthorn (match discussion)

camel · **Posted:** Sun May 23, 2010 4:45 pm

jim wrote:

We have a decent side that can beat anyone but the lack of consistency in performance murders us. Brilliant then throw in a shocker. That will be the killer this year. To turn up not switched on after Hawthorn were lambasted in the media is pretty poor. If Hawthorn turn up to play they have the side on paper to beat anyone. We have to be prepared.

Hemderson getting 3 is one of the few consulations.

Agreed.

We need to work on our mental strength and our ability to back up week after week.

I really hate the fact that we seem to play poor performing sides/players into form.

Perhaps we really are too soft when it really matters.

MPH78 · **Posted:** Sun May 23, 2010 4:47 pm

camelboy wrote:

jim wrote:

We have a decent side that can beat anyone but the lack of consistency in performance murders us. Brilliant then throw in a shocker. That will be the killer this year. To turn up not switched on after Hawthorn were lambasted in the media is pretty poor. If Hawthorn turn up to play they have the side on paper to beat anyone. We have to be prepared.

Hemderson getting 3 is one of the few consulations.

Agreed.

We need to work on our mental strength and our ability to back up week after week.

I really hate the fact that we seem to play poor performing sides/players into form.

Perhaps we really are too soft when it really matters.

The thing is, Ratts and the boys know this and yet still it happens. Makes it even worse.

Juddernaut · **Joined:** Fri May 21, 2010 3:10 pm **Posts:** 45

MPH78 wrote:

Taff wrote:

MPH78 wrote:

We've been that pathetic it's the sort of loss that can derail a season.

Let's hope not but totally devastated at the moment. :sad:

Tough call there mate. We have some key players out, we have to toughen up a no doubt but a few players have been up and the close scrutiny these days makes it tough. Time we got with the big boys!

Maybe mate. But you gotta have heart to compete with the big boys. We've shown nothing today.

Seriously everyone on this chat... the blues are not thast good... we beat a very very down cats and saints but when it comes to teams who play good we get found out. Lets get real here!

jim · **Joined:** Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:21 pm **Posts:** 8206

Setanta and his mates zero this week. Setanta's been good but the trouble with a couple of them they are flashy and brilliant, like Doughnuts from Collingwood, but I worry whether they all will be able to stand up under the stick. Time will tell on that.

grrofunger · **Posted:** Sun May 23, 2010 4:52 pm

lets watch that tomorrow at training - poke each other in the eyes repeatedly for half an hour - have a swim and then put it to bed and come out next week with some @#$%&! intensity and desire

Taff · **Posted:** Sun May 23, 2010 4:52 pm

Ugly time.

I'm off to do something productive.

MIL · **Joined:** Sat Jul 01, 2006 9:43 pm **Posts:** 4745

Na, when we're on we can beat anybody. I reckon we MADE the Cats and Aints look bad because we were so good. And to win 2 games at AAMI was a good effort. The trouble is the gap between our good and bad, and injuries are now mounting which doesn't help.

Wojee · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:17 am **Posts:** 35135

Hawthorn have been terrible this season so it's not a matter of coming up against a team who "play good". We simply haven't looked switched on from the first bounce, this is one of those games where the result is obvious half-way through the first quarter. Carlton were never going to recover from the malaise that set in, and once Hawthorn got 3-4 goals up there was no indication that the Blues would be able to spark a revival.

bluedog · **Posted:** Sun May 23, 2010 4:54 pm

% drop of about 9 this week.

Lurker Blue · **Posted:** Sun May 23, 2010 4:54 pm

jim wrote:

We have a decent side that can beat anyone but the lack of consistency in performance murders us. Brilliant then throw in a shocker. That will be the killer this year. To turn up not switched on after Hawthorn were lambasted in the media is pretty poor. If Hawthorn turn up to play they have the side on paper to beat anyone. We have to be prepared.

Hemderson getting 3 is one of the few consulations.

Inconcistency is a hallmark of youth.

We can beat any team in the world on our day.

With age, and experience will come ability to excel concistently.

The most important thing is for each of us (players, coaches, and supportes) to learn from the losses.

camel · **Posted:** Sun May 23, 2010 4:55 pm

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4thchicken · **Joined:** Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:44 am **Posts:** 3136

rotations for the match
155 to 82

in the last quarter
hawks around 35, blues 11 - explains the fade out

Donstuie · **Posted:** Sun May 23, 2010 4:56 pm

Lurker Blue wrote:

jim wrote:

We have a decent side that can beat anyone but the lack of consistency in performance murders us. Brilliant then throw in a shocker. That will be the killer this year. To turn up not switched on after Hawthorn were lambasted in the media is pretty poor. If Hawthorn turn up to play they have the side on paper to beat anyone. We have to be prepared.

Hemderson getting 3 is one of the few consulations.

Inconcistency is a hallmark of youth.

We can beat any team in the world on our day.

With age, and experience will come ability to excel concistently.

The most important thing is for each of us (players, coaches, and supportes) to learn from the losses.

A day will come, probably soon, when we can no longer use this as an excuse.

Wojee · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:17 am **Posts:** 35135

4thchicken wrote:

rotations for the match
155 to 82

in the last quarter
hawks around 35, blues 11 - explains the fade out

A two man bench will do that to you.

jim · **Joined:** Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:21 pm **Posts:** 8206

Tough call there mate. We have some key players out, we have to toughen up a no doubt but a few players have been up and the close scrutiny these days makes it tough. Time we got with the big boys![/quote]

Maybe mate. But you gotta have heart to compete with the big boys. We've shown nothing today.[/quote]

Seriously everyone on this chat... the blues are not thast good... we beat a very very down cats and saints but when it comes to teams who play good we get found out. Lets get real here![/quote]

Let's get real, sides are down often because their opposition plays well. We were brilliant against Geelong and St.Kilda, that's why they were down. Problem is though we have to switch on every week. That's what hurts us the most. Consistency kills us of effort kills us.

We went through a mighty hard draw, come out 5-3, a great result, and as soon as we get a so-called easier game, we have a huge mental lapse and pay the price. Think we did everything wrong imaginable today. Today brought the great work to get to 5-3 undone.

Donstuie · **Posted:** Sun May 23, 2010 4:59 pm

I'd love nothing more than for the boys to be driven into the mud at training this week. But I'm afraid their timid, brittle bodies might actually snap in half.

Lurker Blue · **Posted:** Sun May 23, 2010 4:59 pm

Juddernaut wrote:

This is my first time on TalkingCarlton.... great site!

Back to the topic, we should really beat the hawks if we don’t all the work over the past 5 weeks is wasted!

Juddernaut wrote:

I was expecting this by the blues, this will be hard to make an impact in the final this year. We rally have nit beaten a team at the top of their game. We should all go back to the "sack ratten dicussion" agreed?

Juddernaut wrote:

Seriously everyone on this chat... the blues are not thast good... we beat a very very down cats and saints but when it comes to teams who play good we get found out. Lets get real here!

Synbad?

4thchicken · **Joined:** Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:44 am **Posts:** 3136

Wojee wrote:

4thchicken wrote:

rotations for the match
155 to 82

in the last quarter
hawks around 35, blues 11 - explains the fade out

A two man bench will do that to you.

true - and was down to a 1 man match by the last

Outback Blue · **Posted:** Sun May 23, 2010 5:08 pm

NO excuses !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not Flowering good enough !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Absolutely discraceful !!!!!!!!!!!!!

We've just played the Hawks into form !!!!!!!!!!

Wojee · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:17 am **Posts:** 35135

Outback Blue wrote:

We've just played the Hawks into form !!!!!!!!!!

I prefer to think of it as lulling them into a false sense of security.

R9: Carlton v Hawthorn (match discussion)

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