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I mentiond the same thing in the earliest pages of this thread.

I remember Thornton played on the Hawks' Williams when Williams.

I'd suggest that Thornton did well that day because the passes to Williams on that day were delivered too high (and as a result favoured Thornton). But when Williams had the ball on the ground, Thornton was found wanting...Williams was too nimble. I don't think pace was Thornton's issue.

Personally, I like a BP player to be medium sized (around 185cm) with bit more pace than the Thorntons to play on the Davey, Farmer and Medhurst types...you know the flashy, turn on a sixpence types. The pace helps us create attacking options to clear the ball and break the lines from the backline.

I think we have several options for BP:

1 Carrazzo: proven BP and high possession one at that, and has a height advantage over the traditional smalls (but he's our RR, wasted as a BP)
2. Anderson: has height and a lot of pace and a proven tagger. Hamstring problem cut him short of developing in that role in 07. He looked the goods.
3. Pfieffer, Armfield and Browne: newboys, unproven but promising good options
4. Scotland: he could do it, but is more effective as a rebounding HB (I want him in the guts)
5 . Houlihan: see Anderson and add experience. A bit of a waste in the backline.
6. Walker: see Houlihan
7. Simpson: despite his height disadvantage, this guy can play any small man role (wasted at BP)
8. ditto...Stevenns, Gibbs, Murphy

Maybe Russell, and Wiggins could be considered, but I see them as HF types.

IMO, there's a battle going on the the BP position, like every position on the ground. I love it!

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B: Armfield Jamison Carlos

HB: Scotland Waite Thornton

C: Simpson Stevens Walker

HF: Houla Cloke Gibbs

F: Fisher Fev Betts

R: Aisake Judd Murphy

IC: Kreuzer Carrazzo Grigg Hadley

Emerg: Bower Jackson Russell

I like that set up jezz.

I hope Arnfield's development will be quick enough to earn a spot.

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Can't see us taking so many newbys into Rd One, even tho it looks good on paper.

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my team for 08, cloke to help with the talls, anderson to help with the smalls, carrazzo to help with the centre line and jackson to run with the runners [harvey, del santo etc].
sorry but no room for wiggns, banno, bentick,saddington or houla.

its time for austin to have a go, if he struggles im sure cloke or one of the other boys will help out. ewards is on the verge also.[strong overhead mark and great skills up forward].what we need is a small type goal sneak with great pace, arron davey type would be nice.

i think we will be good this year but 09 we will be top four. im excited that we have so many kids coming through,
gee i love the blues,
cant wait to flog the tigers round one,
see you all there,
back line,
o'hailpin jamieson thornton

half back,
scotland austin walker

centre line,
simpson stevens hadley

half forward,
fisher waite kreuzer

full forward,
betts fevola gibbs

ruck,
hampson judd murphy

bench,
carrazzo cloke anderson jackson

emerg,
ewards grigg russell bower

I'm gunna have to come up with another side with AB in I think. Very tough this...

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There's so much I could say...

My curremt team for round 1 :

B : Jamison Thornton Bower
HB : Scotland S O'Hailpin Gibbs
C : Walker Stevens(c) Simpson
HF : Houlihan Waite Fisher
F : Betts Fevola(vc) Cloke
R : Hampson Judd Murphy
INT : Kreuzer Hadley Carrazzo Russell

EMG : Grigg A O'Hailpin Saddington Edwards

In all honesty, that was flowering hard...



Appologies to : Hartlett Blackwell Austin Anderson Benjamin Jackson Jacobs Armfield Browne Bannister Wiggins Bentdick Pfeiffer

I want these players in my team as well, but way too top heavy as it stands. Very rare for teams to play more than 3 tall defenders or 3 tall forwards.

For those that track player numbers, the Blues are up to #1107 (Mark Austin received this player number by debuting in Round 22, 2007) and number #1111 could be up for grabs in Round 1, depending on the number of changes.

How many new players will there be, and will the rules mean that Chris Judd if Captain gets named 'first' and into 1108? (checking on this)

Could it be:
1108: Edwards
1109: Hadley
1110: Judd
1111: Kreuzer

or

1108: Judd (if C)
1109: Edwards
1110: Hadley
1111: Kreuzer

or

will Aisake be in there too?

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How does anyone feel about Mark Austin in a key position role this year?
Is he ready?
If he was looking the goods at whichever end of the ground, it would give us a pretty good option. I thought I read that he had good agility for a big man(?)

Looking at our team,we starting to get a good team of 22 players,but i still think we are a couple of years or even 3 away if your really serious.

Back: Andrew Carrazzo, No One, No One (Problem)

(Had to put Carazzo somewhere)

Half Back: Andrew Walker, Bret Thornton, Heath Scotland (GOOD)

Centre: Bryce Gibbs, Nick Stevens, Kade Simpson (GREAT)

HF: Brad Fisher, Jarrad Waite, Ryan Houilhan (GOOD)

Forward: S. O'hAilpin, Brendan Fevola, No One ,

(had to put S. O'hAilpin somewhere,only really Fevola,need a Jeff Farmer type,Eddie Betts goes missing too much)

Ruck: Matthew Kreuser, Chris Judd, Marc Murphy (Will Be GREAT)


Still High Hopes

Aisake O'hAilpin
Paul Bower
Shaun Hampson
Shaun Grigg

Will They Make It ?

Jake Edwards 2 years on the list,nothing so far
Luke Blackwell Has To Be This Year
Adam Hartlett Has To Be This Year
Eddie Betts No Jeff Farmer,who wins games.
Michael Jamison Way too early to call
Jordan Russell needs to really impress soon or it's another Wiggins.
Clinton Benjamin looks the goods physically.

The other new guys too early to say.

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Seen your 22 it's good if those players take off. I only could say Gibbs will soon,he was a number 1 pick and Murphy looked great and Kreuser hasn't played but i expect him to not be a dud.

Those guys like Hampson,Anderson,Bower,Grigg,Austin,A Ohailipin and Jackson we hope they make it but not all will most likely.

You have gibbs at half forward,i'll think they play him on the wing with Walker or Simpson. I'm not sure where Carrazzo will be now Stevens and Judd is there,maybe half back.

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Have checked with the Blueseum Guru and Captaincy and Vice Captaincy were only relevant for Round 1, 1897 where the Blues fielded their first team in the VFL. Aitken was Captain and player #1 whilst Ernie Walton was Vice Captain and player #2.

http://www.blueseum.org/tiki-index.php? ... tion+Blues

So for Round 1 2008 new player numbers will purely be in alphabetical order (for those who care).

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I'm relaising that no longer will teams line up as the traditional:

B
CHB
C
CHF
F

But more in groups.

so with that i mind,

5 backs:
S.O'hAilpin
B.Thornton
M.Jamison
D.Armfield
J.Waite

1 sweeper:
H.Scotland

3 Centers:
C.Judd
N.Stevens
M.Murphy

Attacking winger:
K.Simpson

Defensive Winger:
A.Walker

5 Forwards:
B.Fevola
E.Betts
M.Kreuzer
B.Fisher
R.Houlihan

1 Defensive Forward:
B.Gibbs

Ruckman:
S.Hampson

Interchange:
Forward-A.Hartlett
Center-A. Carrazzo
2 Utilities- C.Cloke R.Hadley

Emerg: S.Grigg M.Austin L.Blackwell R.Jackson

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This is what I thought then...



and now

FB Pfeiffer S.O'hAilpin Thornton
HB Gibbs Waite Walker
C Scotland Stevens Simpson
HF Hadley Fisher Houlihan
FF Betts Fevola Kreuzer/Hampson
FOL Ackland/Cloke Judd Murphy

INT Bower Armfield Carrazzo Russell

With Ratten declaring Waite will play CHB I can't see how we can play Waite, O'hAilpin, Thornton and Jamieson all down back. It then becomes a decision between Jamieson and Bower for the interchange. Bower to my mind provides run and attacking flair and can play on taller opponants so covers more options.

I don't know what that leaves us with up forward, other that to say we won't play with that traditional CHF. Ratten also mentioned Hadley so I assume he will play forward.

The good thing is a lot of our flankers/wingers Gibbs, Walker, Scotland, Houlihan, Scotland, Hadley, Carrazzo are all versatile and call play forward, back or on-ball so the line up could change week to week.

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Last time I tried this, I forgot Thornton. I'm the last person to dis him, but is it tough for him now to get a game? If we assume Waite will play CHB, and Jamison and OhAilpin will be there as well... I also like the look of Bower...
This is what we will see IMO

B Thornton Setanta Anderson
HB Pfeiffer Waite Scotland
C Simpson Carrazzo Walker
HF Gibbs Fisher Murphy
F Houlihan Fevola Kreuzer
R Cloke Judd Stevens
IC Betts Aizake Bower Bentick
Emer Hadley Armfield Jamison

I hope I forgot no-one this time...
I love athletic Bower Walker Pfieffer types so went for all three (will apologise to Grigg later :s)
The forward line will be situational- Waite, Setanta, Aizake, Kreuzer, Cloke wil prob all spend time there
Run off half back onto the wings is the most tiring job, and there are plenty of players to do that
Hadley to come into the team after a few rounds
Hampson to absolutely demand a spot and eventually replace Cloke as number one
Jamison to put pressure on re: Sentanta Waite Thornton and also demand a spot
Betts and Houlihan to spend time fowrard and midfield
Murphy and Gibbs Scotland Walker etc to rotate through midfield

thornton jamo o'hailpin

scotland waite walker

simpson stevens hadley

fisher cloke gibbs

kreuzer fevola carrazzo

hampson judd murphy

austin anderson jackson hartlett

emg; grigg ewards bower a o'hailpin

we must work on our defence!
austin, jamo, o'hailpin, anderson and bower are our hope.
our ruck department will come with hampson, kreuzer and a'ohailpin.
our forward line will also come with ewards and hartlett.
will be very happy if hampson, austin, grigg, ewards, hartlett and anderson all get some games under there belt. when i mean games i mean 10 or 12 i dont mean 2 or 3.

One too many talls for my liking. Very rare to be able to play more than 3 tall defenders at any one time.

in todays game you need tall defenders. jamo is 192 not tall. thronton 193 not tall. o'hailpin 199 tall. waite 195 medium.
we need 2 tall mobile defenders. most sides will have 2 tall moible forwards.
geelong; mooney/ablett now tom hawkins
brisbane; brown/brayshaw
what about when the ruckmen come down the forward pocket for a spell, do we play a tall defender or a medium or a small defender on them?
sorry but i can not see anderson or jamo or bower playing on cox or white or lade. you need 2 tall defenders. do not see where the third tall defender is?