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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:24 pm 
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Well we need abit of luck

Hopefully Marchbank begins pre season from day 1
Harry, Charlie and Gov complete a year together finally and in form
A couple of debutants in Carroll and Kemp in the offing
Improvement from Dekoning, Philp and Durdin will be important
Fisher has hardly played a game in two year so need him firing
Keep injury list at AFL average of six injured players
Top four is ours.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:37 pm 
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Need a complete rethink of our coaching team. Yze/Caracalla/Kingsley as Head Coach and poach senior assistants from top performing clubs. Lyon/Sanderson/Leppitsch as senior assistant. Use the soft cap wisely. Wells to replace Lloyd as football director. Keep Power and Amos. Be smart and aggressive.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:59 pm 
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Lyon/Sanderson/Leppitsch as senior assistant.



I've thought about Lyon as a senior assistant or director of coaching or something but would that really work? Wouldn't he be a bit too ambitious for the head coach's job?

And Leppa would be a good get but hasn't he burnt his bridges with us in the media lately?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:03 pm 
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Walsh wrote:
Well we need abit of luck

Hopefully Marchbank begins pre season from day 1
Harry, Charlie and Gov complete a year together finally and in form
A couple of debutants in Carroll and Kemp in the offing
Improvement from Dekoning, Philp and Durdin will be important
Fisher has hardly played a game in two year so need him firing
Keep injury list at AFL average of six injured players
Top four is ours.



Hope you're right for next year Walsh. It just feels like every year we hope to finally get a half decent run with injuries, but never do. We always seem to lose development time for players in their first & second years, just disastrous.

I don't agree with everything you say but you have been on about how utterly screwed we've been by the injury gods, & to that end you are bang on the money.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:06 pm 
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I’m more focused on getting the right ‘group’ of coaches all pulling in the one direction who are versed in the modern game together with a competent and experienced senior assistant. Essendon* have serious coaching panel depth and as much as I hate those pricks, all of Rutten Caracalla Gia etc are highly rated. We need depth of line coaches who could easily step up to senior coach in their own right but also take ownership of the group of players assigned to them.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:18 pm 
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JK wrote:
I’m more focused on getting the right ‘group’ of coaches all pulling in the one direction who are versed in the modern game together with a competent and experienced senior assistant. Essendon** have serious coaching panel depth and as much as I hate those pricks, all of Rutten Caracalla Gia etc are highly rated. We need depth of line coaches who could easily step up to senior coach in their own right but also take ownership of the group of players assigned to them.


Sounds good, JK. Any names you’re keen on?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:22 pm 
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JK wrote:
Lyon/Sanderson/Leppitsch as senior assistant.



I've thought about Lyon as a senior assistant or director of coaching or something but would that really work? Wouldn't he be a bit too ambitious for the head coach's job?

And Leppa would be a good get but hasn't he burnt his bridges with us in the media lately?
When did Leppa suddenly become a good coach.
14 wins 52 losses as a senior coach is pretty ordinary.
Just because he was on coaching panel at Richmond doesn't mean he was good and why isn't he still there

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:39 pm 
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JK wrote:
Need a complete rethink of our coaching team. Yze/Caracalla/Kingsley as Head Coach and poach senior assistants from top performing clubs. Lyon/Sanderson/Leppitsch as senior assistant. Use the soft cap wisely. Wells to replace Lloyd as football director. Keep Power and Amos. Be smart and aggressive.


Yze-Caracella-Kingsley? Why, what makes them stand out.. as much as Bolton has that couldnt land the Hawthorn job?

I can accept Lyon as director of Coaching or Director of Football

Sanderson and Leppitsch no thanks - assistant coaches at best.

Lloyd isnt the football director he is the football manager.

Be smart and aggressive in this way? Sure buddy.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:35 pm 
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Thought Caracella wasn't really interested in a senior gig.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:38 pm 
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BlueJean wrote:
JK wrote:
I’m more focused on getting the right ‘group’ of coaches all pulling in the one direction who are versed in the modern game together with a competent and experienced senior assistant. Essendon*** have serious coaching panel depth and as much as I hate those pricks, all of Rutten Caracalla Gia etc are highly rated. We need depth of line coaches who could easily step up to senior coach in their own right but also take ownership of the group of players assigned to them.


Sounds good, JK. Any names you’re keen on?


Plenty of highly rated names around the industry, just have to find the right mix and balance.

Dean Cox
Daniel Giansiracusa
Jaymie Graham
Adam Yze
Chris Newman
Scott Burns
Stevie J
Matthew Boyd
Nigel Lappin
Adam Kingsley

Then ex-senior coaches like Pyke, Scott, Lyon, Leppitsch etc if interested.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 11:53 am 
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So NM find a way to beat WC over there...

Not a snowflakes chance in hell we could do the same...in fact, WC would just flick the switch when they saw fit and beat us by...you guessed it...between 20-30 points

We are a basket case between the ears...and the coaches have been completely and utterly incompetent with activating our "winning mindset'

Enough with defending Teague...he's gotta go!!!


Haven't got coaches here to do that for 20 years. Maybe the reason is something else? Teague has got 2nd closest on that count this century.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 11:57 am 
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Walsh wrote:
Need to move the ball better than we did yesterday. Setting players behind the ball not going to win flags.. but had no one as that relief kick and linking play. Jack and Cripps played that role at times but needed to move the ball far quicker to break down Geelongs' defence and put them under the pump H was consistently triple teamed as we were slow to move the ball. Need to be more attacking...
With Jones and Casboult we would have. We were short on KPP and hence needed the extra behind the ball. Even with Levi out of form he still takes a player, meaning less pressure on McKay. Important for the structure.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:03 pm 
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jamespul65 wrote:
i love how teague and his panel let stewart and other defenders patrol HBf on there own UNBELIEVABLE
We were light on for talls with Jones out so we had to put an extra behind the ball. Which meant they had an extra too. We get cut up one way or the other.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:04 pm 
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Walsh wrote:
Need to move the ball better than we did yesterday. Setting players behind the ball not going to win flags.. but had no one as that relief kick and linking play. Jack and Cripps played that role at times but needed to move the ball far quicker to break down Geelongs' defence and put them under the pump H was consistently triple teamed as we were slow to move the ball. Need to be more attacking...
With Jones and Casboult we would have. We were short on KPP and hence needed the extra behind the ball. Even with Levi out of form he still takes a player, meaning less pressure on McKay. Important for the structure.



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:11 pm 
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Yes but all other teams near the bottom of the ladder injuries or not seem to implement innovate to beat top teams with the personnel they have
I have seen no evidence that we do this nor have we really got near a top team all year and yes been beaten by most by about 4 goals but we still DO NOT beat top teams everyone else even Hawks and North do
This is why people are questioning the coaching staff
This is why for another reason Sunday is a big test for our. Patching staff comprehensively outcoached and outplayed last time we played Collingwood let’s see 14 weeks later whether we actually learn from first defeat and yes with undersized team can we innovate to win


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:22 pm 
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frank dardew wrote:
Yes but all other teams near the bottom of the ladder injuries or not seem to implement innovate to beat top teams with the personnel they have
I have seen no evidence that we do this nor have we really got near a top team all year and yes been beaten by most by about 4 goals but we still DO NOT beat top teams everyone else even Hawks and North do
This is why people are questioning the coaching staff
This is why for another reason Sunday is a big test for our. Patching staff comprehensively outcoached and outplayed last time we played Collingwood let’s see 14 weeks later whether we actually learn from first defeat and yes with undersized team can we innovate to win


Well said.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:41 pm 
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https://www.afl.com.au/video/647781/why ... 6245402001

Who reads TC.??

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:16 pm 
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Watching 360 and seeing what swans have done with their game plan.
So good to see a team playing to their strengths.

Why is it easy to see what other teams are and yet I have no idea what we are doing.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:19 pm 
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Longmire is a really good coach and he has a very good coaching staff around him


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:34 pm 
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As an aside, how good were those retro jumpers they wore against the dogs :thumbsup:

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