For starters, he’s been in charge for five years not four years... that’s five trade trade periods, five drafts... there won’t be too many clubs, if any, that had the selections that we had at the pointy end of the draft... and I doubt there’s any club that has done worse than us at the back end of the draft (including the rookie draft).

We’ve found a way to do less with more, while other clubs have done more with less...

When you look at what he’s done in detail (as well as what he hasn’t done), then it’s obvious why he’s being moved on... most here aren’t interested or care about the detail.

I'm in the camp that believes Silvagni has done an excellent job. Our list has been a mess for ages but now is in a very healthy state.

For starters, he structured an approach (similar to Pelchen) of preparing a list that covered all aspects. We are still short of small forwards and long term ruckman, but these are the easiest pieces to fill with trading and rookies. He worked on getting depth across all levels and has done this. The extra midfielders this year was necessary but all part of the plan.

Generally, I think SOS's early picks have been very good. I agree his latter picks and some trading have not but much of this has been in the speculative realm. No recruiter is 100% and I also agree on the Stephen Wells analysis. His overall performance is good (3 flags) but he has drafted some absolute stinkers in his time.

For me, SOS's biggest issue was having two sons on the list. There is possibly a third to come. The conflict is obvious. Coupled with the knowledge his rebuild work is essentially done and a (likely) desire to simply watch his sons develop, means it is probably the right time for him to go with our blessing. I think it unlikely SOS wanted the job for life.

Anyone doubting his influence didn't watch the draft last week. His work with only one decent pick was sensational. First and foremost, there was a clear plan and execution. CFC identified 3 players of interest and all were gone after the Swans changed tack on who they wanted. Rather than simply draft the next best or take who is on the shelf, SOS got creative. He made the other clubs draft their academy players (and screwed both for the remainder of the draft and Freo for next year). He positioned us to have two bites of the cherry. He took the guy (Philp) the Tigers wanted.

None of this happens by accident. His work at the drafts has been excellent.

I like what he brought to trade week as well. This year it didn't work but it should be noted we only missed on Papley. We offered pick 9 and who here would pay more than that? I wouldn't (don't think he is worth 9 either). We over-offered for Martin as well. When neither worked, SOS was smart enough to not offer the farm. You can over-pay but don't lose sight of the main game.

SOS will be missed but maybe it was time. His work will be judged better in hindsight, with our improvement (I hope). One thing is absolutely certain, he left this club in an INFINITELY better position than the mess he inherited. No one can dispute that.

Absolute rubbish from any point of view. The only problem has been the rookie draft. No data to support this view yet at all.

If Gibbons comes good then that even takes care of the Rookies...

But keep spinning that tale.

Pinch of salt with all these posts. They’re not exactly a exactly full of reasoning or detail, just broad strokes of opinion masked as knowledge.

We had the worst list since Fitzroy... but we should have won a premiership already I guess.

Absolute rubbish from any point of view. The only problem has been the rookie draft. No data to support this view yet at all.

If Gibbons comes good then that even takes care of the Rookies...

But keep spinning that tale.

Pinch of salt with all these posts. They’re not exactly a exactly full of reasoning or detail, just broad strokes of opinion masked as knowledge.

We had the worst list since Fitzroy... but we should have won a premiership already I guess.

You’ve got to be joking? One rookie to redeem the 40 odd failures outside the top dozen?

His success is built upon the team’s continual failing - early picks. If he had ANY runs on the board outside that, I’d be able to tell you what flavour the Kool-Aid was that you’ve all been drinking.

"Liddle was already under pressure after his key commercial appointment failed and lasted less than eight weeks in the job."

Any insight into what's gone on here?

The Blues legend was in at the club on Monday and will oversee recruit star Jack Martin’s transition from the Gold Coast Suns.

But Silvagni won’t stay until Christmas, instead moving on over the next week or so.

"Liddle was already under pressure after his key commercial appointment failed and lasted less than eight weeks in the job."

Any insight into what's gone on here?

But he pissed him off!! After 8 weeks, he is showing that he stuffed up and pissed him off!!
No problem with that!

Silvagni's parting swipe at Blues leadership

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/sil ... 53g69.html

But he pissed him off!! After 8 weeks, he is showing that he stuffed up and pissed him off!!
No problem with that!

Such a shame SOS is leaving on not the greatest of terms.
Interesting that the board sided with Liddle.
Unfortunately this is Carlton, we never seem to learn.
Thanks SOS, you have done an amazing job turning the list around.