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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:18 am 
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Not enough being said about Henderson kicking directly to the opposition on 3 occassions resulting in 2.1 to Hawthorns score.

Plus the game winner for Essendon* last week.

As I see it, Hendersons turnovers have now lost two games. Which is a shame because he does so many other good things.


Those turnovers have come from nowhere. I was worried about his short kicking when he first went back to defense but was proven wrong to worry when he didn't miss a beat. Now the problem raises its head.

I am sure he can tighten it up. Maybe just getting ahead of himself after a few great kicking games before the Essendon* game.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:33 am 
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Im still hurting from this loss.
I will drown my sorrows in the states for six weeks


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:11 pm 
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This is getting ridiculous.

Luke Hodge bump on Marc Murphy in the spirit of the game

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:22 pm 
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Jono brown ?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:46 pm 
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billc3 wrote:
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And why are we listening to interviews with miked up umpires.




That was a disgrace. They actually asked him if he thought Carlon were coming back into the game.

Just another thing that's shit about today's footy

WTF ARE YOU KIDDING ME???????
I was at the came so didn't see that rubbish....only confirms what I was saying on the last page.
Thanks Bondi for backing it up....
Sorry so sound like a " conspiracy theorist " but there was something weird going on last night (and a few other games)
just saw the MM presser....he knew too.

Gerriatric.....we couldn't get into the game in the second half...really?... We opened with a goal, no possession from the hawks meant the umps couldn't blow the whistle....any contest and the whistle would go against us....simple.
Caz couldn't take a mark in the second half...have a look at how often he was shepherded out long before the ball got there....watching on telly doesn't REALLY show whets happening.
Two marks ..Walks and Garlett last quarter. ...punched arms and head missed ball...play on....yes, we didn't look like getting a goal in the second half....btw Garlett's was front on contact also...

As I said before....it was SUS from the first bounce....just seemed to get worse second half. Ump nearly twisted a testicle running in to get a review when it looked like a point would be awarded?..and the footage was soooo conclusive.

Wake up AFL.... Looks like the Morans are guiding the umps and not the Geesh


Hey Billy if only it was so.........the Morans were Carlton fans.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:53 pm 
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The_Wookie wrote:
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Hey Wookie you are a legend but its Michael not Micheal.

Just a little personal hobby horse of mine.

:wink:


Ah i get mixed up because my middle name is actually spelt the wrong way. My dad was an idiot.


Are you of Irish background? Pretty sure the traditional Irish spelling is Micheal.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:56 pm 
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teknodeejay wrote:
Not enough being said about Henderson kicking directly to the opposition on 3 occassions resulting in 2.1 to Hawthorns score.

Plus the game winner for Essendon* last week.

As I see it, Hendersons turnovers have now lost two games. Which is a shame because he does so many other good things.


I've looked at his kick against Essendon* a dozen times. It's a tough one to analyse, but I give him the benefit of the doubt. I reckon Yarran was pathetic in that contest and 8 out of 10 players would have marked that in Yarran's position.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 1:07 pm 
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The Spornstar wrote:
teknodeejay wrote:
Not enough being said about Henderson kicking directly to the opposition on 3 occassions resulting in 2.1 to Hawthorns score.

Plus the game winner for Essendon* last week.

As I see it, Hendersons turnovers have now lost two games. Which is a shame because he does so many other good things.


I've looked at his kick against Essendon* a dozen times. It's a tough one to analyse, but I give him the benefit of the doubt. I reckon Yarran was pathetic in that contest and 8 out of 10 players would have marked that in Yarran's position.


Fair call, but check the one to Scotland last night. Almost identical in execution and decision making. Scotland stands and waits for the pill (similar to Yarran) and I think it's Breust who senses an opportunity and intercepts...

So are Yarran and Scotland in the wrong here, or is it a poor decision on both occassions by Henderson to opt for a short, potentially contested possession in a crunch time of the game (both times, Carlton needed to find a target to control the game).

Simpson's spoil is still the greatest act by a Carlton player that game. In fact his whole game deserves plaudits. How frustrated he must have been to see it butchered further afield at times.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 1:18 pm 
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The Spornstar wrote:
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Hey Wookie you are a legend but its Michael not Micheal.

Just a little personal hobby horse of mine.

:wink:


Ah i get mixed up because my middle name is actually spelt the wrong way. My dad was an idiot.


Are you of Irish background? Pretty sure the traditional Irish spelling is Micheal.



Pretty sure you are wrong. :wink: :mad:

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:31 pm 
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I'm sure I heard a TC'er ring in to SEN yesterday morning and mention media people not wanting to lose their accreditation and access to HT pies and scones.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 5:22 pm 
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The Vet wrote:


I don't think so Vet. I made this point earlier and now someone who actually knows something about the game has said the same thing.

And former Adelaide strongman Mark Ricciuto concurred, even questioning Murphy's "bad technique" in physical clashes.
"He had his head hanging out (when) you need to get more side-on, exactly what Hodge did," Ricciuto said.


My point is that the next time it happens I want Murphy to be the one causing the damage.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 5:57 pm 
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BigKev wrote:
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I don't think so Vet. I made this point earlier and now someone who actually knows something about the game has said the same thing.

And former Adelaide strongman Mark Ricciuto concurred, even questioning Murphy's "bad technique" in physical clashes.
"He had his head hanging out (when) you need to get more side-on, exactly what Hodge did," Ricciuto said.


My point is that the next time it happens I want Murphy to be the one causing the damage.


Hodges intent was to injure pure and simple.


Former Adelaide strongman Mark Ricciuto concurred, even questioning Murphy's "bad technique" in physical clashes

and Hird can’t wait for the truth to come out.

FMD you guys freak me out some times.

Hodges intent was to injure pure and simple.
He knew the ascendency needed to be addressed and as a good leader took the initiative.
He didn’t even try and pick up the ball, quite evident in his body position.
A good player knows when what to do and when to do it, that’s why he is a captain and a leader of a top four side.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:14 pm 
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redback wrote:
BigKev wrote:
The Vet wrote:


I don't think so Vet. I made this point earlier and now someone who actually knows something about the game has said the same thing.

And former Adelaide strongman Mark Ricciuto concurred, even questioning Murphy's "bad technique" in physical clashes.
"He had his head hanging out (when) you need to get more side-on, exactly what Hodge did," Ricciuto said.


My point is that the next time it happens I want Murphy to be the one causing the damage.


Hodges intent was to injure pure and simple.


Former Adelaide strongman Mark Ricciuto concurred, even questioning Murphy's "bad technique" in physical clashes

and Hird can’t wait for the truth to come out.

FMD you guys freak me out some times.

Hodges intent was to injure pure and simple.
He knew the ascendency needed to be addressed and as a good leader took the initiative.
He didn’t even try and pick up the ball, quite evident in his body position.
A good player knows when what to do and when to do it, that’s why he is a captain and a leader of a top four side.


Strange game though. Our captain had a choice to pick up the ball and have his jaw broken or pull back and be questioned for the rest of his life. He went for the pickup the ball/ broken jaw option and he is the one getting bagged in the media while the other dudes option was to clean up the opposition captain and break his jaw or try and contest the ball in a non reckless way and he is the king in the media.

What the #$%& are we doing following this game !


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:19 pm 
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Strange world isn't it.

I remember McGinnity also getting blamed for not protecting himself when Maxwell broke his jaw.

They changed the rule after that.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:26 pm 
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All our losses have 1 thing common the oppostion score easy goals.I have said it many times on this site we have to change our game plan.We have to close opp fwd line up, we need to run back close all that space up e.g bud v jamo bad delivery still plenty of space easy goal.Ess game fwd line open easy goals .We have to adopt swans gameplan and that is to run hard both ways so be prepared for a big pre season i believe.(bit luck might help to).


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:34 pm 
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It's not the game, it's the media that has reached the disparaging levels that it has.

With all that the AFL controls and what is at stake everyone must toe the company line for fear of retribution.

Let's see if the head is sacrosanct.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:04 pm 
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club29 wrote:
redback wrote:
BigKev wrote:
The Vet wrote:


I don't think so Vet. I made this point earlier and now someone who actually knows something about the game has said the same thing.

And former Adelaide strongman Mark Ricciuto concurred, even questioning Murphy's "bad technique" in physical clashes.
"He had his head hanging out (when) you need to get more side-on, exactly what Hodge did," Ricciuto said.


My point is that the next time it happens I want Murphy to be the one causing the damage.


Hodges intent was to injure pure and simple.


Former Adelaide strongman Mark Ricciuto concurred, even questioning Murphy's "bad technique" in physical clashes

and Hird can’t wait for the truth to come out.

FMD you guys freak me out some times.

Hodges intent was to injure pure and simple.
He knew the ascendency needed to be addressed and as a good leader took the initiative.
He didn’t even try and pick up the ball, quite evident in his body position.
A good player knows when what to do and when to do it, that’s why he is a captain and a leader of a top four side.


Strange game though. Our captain had a choice to pick up the ball and have his jaw broken or pull back and be questioned for the rest of his life. He went for the pickup the ball/ broken jaw option and he is the one getting bagged in the media while the other dudes option was to clean up the opposition captain and break his jaw or try and contest the ball in a non reckless way and he is the king in the media.

What the #$%& are we doing following this game !


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:13 pm 
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100 cameras at the footy.. all showing every movement of every player from every angle
everything that happens gets scrutinised.. all knee jerk...

get rid of the technology and the million cameras .. and the overumpired game and get back to what footy used to be .

each time someone does something its picked up on disected and spoken about..scrutinised.. flipped over.. discussed .. sent to the rules commision.. or hits the papers and of course all of this has a flow on effect at the detriment to he club.

murph ad carlton not being defensive enough gets highighted spoken about and he has to put himself under the pump/
something happens in a single game suddenly a guy putting his head over the ball is free kicked.. or the ball is a free kick if its icked 50 meters and over the line as deliberate ...
how many rules does this sport have???
how many decisions must go to the camera replay??....
footy is becoming a shit sport!!!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:14 pm 
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Would the media be so quick to jump to, say Robbo`s defence if he had done that to Hodge?


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:04 pm 
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The umpiring and Murphy were likely to get us a win but let's not kid ourselves we are not sure enough by hand an foot in pressure situations to beat top sides. It will come


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