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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:49 am 
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Kreuzer wasn't right to play

With Waite back Hampson is the omission.

Kreuzer and Warnock rotating rucks/interchange/forward.

Need to find a way to play Henderson forward.

We need an option so that midfielders can lower their eyes and kick short instead of bombing in. Henderson is a smart lead up forward who is generally a good decision maker.


MM did best at the Pies with one ruckman, 2 proper key forwards and Leigh Brown as a pinch hitter. Why he went 3 ruckmen tonight is beyond me. Could play Waite and Henderson in the key positions with Casboult playing the 2nd ruck role as Brown did. Could make for a potent forward line at least, just mean playing Watson or Rowe at CHB.


2 questions.

1) Who is Waite?
2) Watson is a midfielder his strength is his agility below the knees why would you play him at CHB?


We have two Watson's on our list? I know e have one who's 195cm and 98kg, who plays key defence but who's this other one, who's a midfielder, agile and good below his knees.

Think you have something mixed up.


No mate, I wasnt mixed up, I was being facetious, highlighting Watson incredible midfielder like agility below the knees


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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:51 am 
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I agree completely with Sherrin. He's embarrassing. A pretender. Wanted him gone to Melbourne last year as I felt it would be advantageous to us from a trading position. Now I just want to see the back of him.

Sorry, but who are you talking about?


Murphy


I dont remember anything about Murph and Melb.

When was this.


There wasn't anything official or even rumoured to have occurred. I suggested that Melbourne's second pick for Murphy was fair.

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:51 am 
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Losing two immediately killed the rotation system and you could see it on the players on the bench and those coming off. Confusion reigned. At one point Armfield took himself off the ground spent, huffing and puffing, and nobody was ready to come back on. After a few seconds of people pointing around Murphy sprung up off the bench and ran back on. No doubt why Malthouse himself came down with 10 minutes still to play in the 2nd quarter... it was a shambles down there.


Most teams will struggle with loosing 2 players so quickly. Plus Jamo with one arm against an inform Roo and Murph on one foot. When your structure gets stuffed up like this its easy to loose your composure. The key problem was that we for one half let them play their game plan and bomb it blindly. I still think it was one of these days where everything goes wrong form the first minute (Jamo's shoulder popped in the first minute).

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:52 am 
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DenimUndies wrote:
jim wrote:
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jim wrote:
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Kreuzer wasn't right to play

With Waite back Hampson is the omission.

Kreuzer and Warnock rotating rucks/interchange/forward.

Need to find a way to play Henderson forward.

We need an option so that midfielders can lower their eyes and kick short instead of bombing in. Henderson is a smart lead up forward who is generally a good decision maker.


MM did best at the Pies with one ruckman, 2 proper key forwards and Leigh Brown as a pinch hitter. Why he went 3 ruckmen tonight is beyond me. Could play Waite and Henderson in the key positions with Casboult playing the 2nd ruck role as Brown did. Could make for a potent forward line at least, just mean playing Watson or Rowe at CHB.


2 questions.

1) Who is Waite?
2) Watson is a midfielder his strength is his agility below the knees why would you play him at CHB?


We have two Watson's on our list? I know e have one who's 195cm and 98kg, who plays key defence but who's this other one, who's a midfielder, agile and good below his knees.

Think you have something mixed up.


No mate, I wasnt mixed up, I was being facetious, highlighting Watson incredible midfielder like agility below the knees


....huh?

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:52 am 
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Thanks Lowey - that puts it all into perspective.


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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:52 am 
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Hammer time cops a lot here, however I think he plays best when he is the second big guy in the forward line. He came good when Hendo went down there. Hammertime will at least make a contest and can take a contested mark.

Until someone else steps up, Hammertime will still be in our selected side. Unfortunately CazBolt, Mitchell, Krooze, Rowe etc are not putting enough pressure on the selectors to make a change.

Possibly Waite and Hendo could be the new tall forward options however Jamo is a concern and Hendo will need to go back.

Krooze is disappointing and for a big guy lacks presence in a marking contest. He hardly smashes a pack and doesn't launch himself. He is happy to try and ruck rove a high ball contest.

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 11:14 am 
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Hammer time cops a lot here, however I think he plays best when he is the second big guy in the forward line. He came good when Hendo went down there. Hammertime will at least make a contest and can take a contested mark.

Until someone else steps up, Hammertime will still be in our selected side. Unfortunately CazBolt, Mitchell, Krooze, Rowe etc are not putting enough pressure on the selectors to make a change.


Casboult is a million times better contested mark than Hampson, and he much more agile as well. The only things Hampson is good at is rucking and running in a straight line, and he is probably third in line as our ruck.

Did you notice how he took that mark in the last quarter? It was horrible to watch, he just stood there and stuck his arms straight in the air, all tense and rigid, the ball just happened to hit his hands. There was no anticipation of the ball being received into the hands, ie no soft hands concept, and no sense if timing his grab, this is why he is so easily spoiled and often completely misses the ball.

Couple that to the fact he also doesn't know when it where to lead to and constantly runs to the wrong position.

As much as i admire the guy for making it as far as he has I just can't see him as a key forward.


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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 11:17 am 
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Hammer time cops a lot here, however I think he plays best when he is the second big guy in the forward line. He came good when Hendo went down there. Hammertime will at least make a contest and can take a contested mark. and his Girlfriend is stunning

Until someone else steps up, Hammertime will still be in our selected side. Unfortunately CazBolt, Mitchell, Krooze, Rowe etc are not putting enough pressure on the selectors to make a change.

Possibly Waite and Hendo could be the new tall forward options Forward as in a Medical reception area rather than rear part of a hospital? however Jamo is a concern and Hendo will need to go back.

Krooze is disappointing and for a big guy lacks presence in a marking contest. He hardly smashes a pack and doesn't launch himself. He is happy to try and ruck rove a high ball contest.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 11:18 am 
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Damn, and the Comedy Festival just ended too...

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 11:19 am 
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3 ruckmen - @#$%&! me dead! Have we learned yet? Finally? Perhaps also it might be understood its not just that the 3 ruckmen are useless in the one team but then the pressure that puts on all the other players to cover for them puts everything out of whack. Trade 1. Do not care which. Really do not. Just trade 1 and move on.

Yarran - @#$%&! I hope MM wanted Yazz to learn about team cos I hope Yazz declared himself fit and not the medico's. At Least then Yazz might learn to be honest in his assessment about himself. If he was tight and pretended otherwise perhaps next time he will not pretend. Otherwise its just us picking players you are not 100% and watching the horror.

Kruse - Looked as if he should not have been near a ball (or a player that might hit his thumb) last night, particularly early. And playing him forced us to give Warnock long periods off the ground and this doesn;t work for Warnock. He plays most of the time as 1st ruck or not at all in my book.

Waite - make him CHB play hendo CHF cos Waite needs to earn his place.

Then we had
Jammo pops a shoulder and plays injured because he had to ( 3 ruckmen + stupid decision on Yazz plus Ellard's injury and Murph's injury).
Murphy's foot. he is copping a pasting on her and perhaps justifiably but @#$%&! that must have hurt last night.
Ellard. Damn. Particularly with 3 ruckmen, Damn Damn Damn.

Those five things took the game away. It took away run and spread and the damage we could do to them. This was lost at the selection table. What the hell were they thinking????

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 11:21 am 
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Casboult is a million times better contested mark than Hampson, and he much more agile as well. The only things Hampson is good at is rucking and running in a straight line, and he is probably third in line as our ruck.


Like I said, if the above is true then Casboult needs to start proving it. Casboult was a long way off when tried at senior level.

I would love to see some pressure come from the other guys.

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 11:29 am 
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Crap work by the MC and Crap work by the coach (not surprisingly ... :razz:)

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 11:34 am 
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Hammer time cops a lot here


I've been around long enough. I roll with the punches.

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 11:37 am 
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Yarran should not have played.
Kreuzer should not have played.

Early injuries hurt but the team didn't look switched on from the start and between blindly bombing it forward and the tall forwards being ineffectual it's a miracle the scores were so close at the end.


Milne is the biggest flog in the AFL bar none.

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 11:39 am 
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Genuine question: Will Gibbs be available?


Does it matter? Another version of Lucas with 150 odd games on top!!


No Lucas is not in the same street as Gibbs, we all bag him but we bloody missed him tonight.

Lucas is just a front runner who gives very little to the side, he can't hold a tackle, won't go when it is his turn, butchers the ball almost every time he gets it and to add insult to injury the only time he looks ok is when he is in space, but what does he do? He holds on to it too long or takes another couple of bounces completely @#$%&! up the leads players have made up the ground and allowing opposition players to get back to fill holes.

Like I said out the front on hard rubbish day, although they probably wouldn't take him either as it would be HARD rubbish day.

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 11:47 am 
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I gave him a big wrap on here yesterday....but Eddie was teeeeeeerrible.


I really don't think it was a case of the small forwards being terrible, as a team we payed no respect to the opposition and suffered for it,

St Kilda sat a spare bloke back all night, and we did nothing to even the numbers up and make that bloke accountable, poor coaching, St Kilda ran hard defensively and were able to block up space and get numbers back which as has been predicted by people on this board killed any chance the small forwards had of being creative, losing Yarran compounded the problem and have Megan Hampson in the forward line was just a waste of time, would have much preferred Rowe to play, I still don't understand why he was originally dropped before Shaun Gale.

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 11:49 am 
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Genuine question: Will Gibbs be available?


Does it matter? Another version of Lucas with 150 odd games on top!!


No Lucas is not in the same street as Gibbs, we all bag him but we bloody missed him tonight.

Lucas is just a front runner who gives very little to the side, he can't hold a tackle, won't go when it is his turn, butchers the ball almost every time he gets it and to add insult to injury the only time he looks ok is when he is in space, but what does he do? He holds on to it too long or takes another couple of bounces completely !@#$%& up the leads players have made up the ground and allowing opposition players to get back to fill holes.

Like I said out the front on hard rubbish day, although they probably wouldn't take him either as it would be HARD rubbish day.



Yep agree was harsh. But Gibbs needs to come out and fire. That means winning his own ball. He should play forward when he is back.


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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 11:52 am 
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St Kilda's spare man worked so well because it was lobbed directly on his head all night. I could've picked up 20 possessions and 10 marks playing for St Kilda by just plonking myself 30m out from goal. How many times was the ball bombed into a pack of three Saints without a Carlton player in the same camera shot?

Panicky, stupid forward entries not helped by key forwards who lead once then think their work is done.

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 12:10 pm 
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yes agreed -lets pick out lucas when apart from 1 or 2 the rest were deplorable - how about have a crack at Jarrad im so selfish waite or Eddie breaking someones jaw off the play - lucas was bad agreed but he had about 18 other mates
No I haven't changed when they are deplorable I call it - like I did when we lost to Richmond -tonight was completely incompetent unprofessional in all ways - yarran wasn't fit yet plays -everyone in Australia bar our coaching team thought playing 3 ruckman was going to be a problem -our best forward tall gets suspended for headbutting and misses his 6th match of the season

only one laughing tonight is Ratts who knows that these players continually let you down and they can and will do it to the messiah coach as well


Frank I agree with you about all of the others, there are only a couple that can collect their pay for last night and say they earned it, but Lucas is copping justified stick, his willingness to do the hard things has been in question for a long time and he has had ample opportunity to work on it with no result, I would much rather play someone like Bell or Buckley in that role and at least know that they are going to crack in rather than make token efforts.

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 12:10 pm 
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blues8182 wrote:
Navy Blue Horse wrote:
I gave him a big wrap on here yesterday....but Eddie was teeeeeeerrible.


I really don't think it was a case of the small forwards being terrible, as a team we payed no respect to the opposition and suffered for it,

St Kilda sat a spare bloke back all night, and we did nothing to even the numbers up and make that bloke accountable, poor coaching, St Kilda ran hard defensively and were able to block up space and get numbers back which as has been predicted by people on this board killed any chance the small forwards had of being creative, losing Yarran compounded the problem and have Megan Hampson in the forward line was just a waste of time, would have much preferred Rowe to play, I still don't understand why he was originally dropped before Shaun Gale.



Eddie had the fumbles all night

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