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Seriously, I believe our boys are on a mission to reach the Prelim final. From HB to HF, we have too much pace, run and skill for Essendon* Sydney WC Hawthorn and the Aints and we have multiple goalkicking options. Our boys are much more mature and confident in themselves than last year and they wont stuff up their early final opportunities.
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Does anyone know how they fixture the finals if all four are in Melbourne? Is it based on the opponent/possible crowd size, or the home ground of the higher team?

I think if we finish 5th we should get to pick where we play because we're higher than 6th (obviously).

Essendon* and St Kilda both play Etihad well. But it would more than likely be at the MCG because Bomber flogs will be crawling out of the woodwork and we'll never hear the end of it if it's at Etihad and they can't get tickets.
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JohnM wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
If we finish 5th we're higher ranked and should get the game at the MCG.


Why's that?

Isn't Etihad our home ground? Or do we simply get given the choice?


Its Essendon* and St kilda's more than ours. We still have more home games at the G.

I don't think we get given the choice, but the MCG is where finals are played and the highest ranked teams should play there when 4 finals are in Melbourne.

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TruBlueBrad wrote:
I don't think we get given the choice, but the MCG is where finals are played and the highest ranked teams should play there when 4 finals are in Melbourne.
That would be like the AFL admitting there is something wrong with Etihad.
No, Dimitriou will pull out the old selective "best fit" rule.
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
JohnM wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
If we finish 5th we're higher ranked and should get the game at the MCG.


Why's that?

Isn't Etihad our home ground? Or do we simply get given the choice?


Its Essendon* and St kilda's more than ours. We still have more home games at the G.

I don't think we get given the choice, but the MCG is where finals are played and the highest ranked teams should play there when 4 finals are in Melbourne.


5 home games at the G, 6 at Etihad this season.
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
JohnM wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
If we finish 5th we're higher ranked and should get the game at the MCG.


Why's that?

Isn't Etihad our home ground? Or do we simply get given the choice?


Its Essendon* and St kilda's more than ours. We still have more home games at the G.

I don't think we get given the choice, but the MCG is where finals are played and the highest ranked teams should play there when 4 finals are in Melbourne.

You talk way too much sense to be on these forums....

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You're right, I got the mix wrong.

Its still Essendon* and St Kildas home ground too though.

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Top 4 will be in our hands after today. I have that feeling the Dees recovery will start today!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I meant Tigers would win to setup Sydney as our first week opponent. :lol:
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
You're right, I got the mix wrong.

Its still Essendon* and St Kildas home ground too though.

Is there still an AFL obligation to play final(s) at Jihad though?

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Megaman wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
You're right, I got the mix wrong.

Its still Essendon* and St Kildas home ground too though.

Is there still an AFL obligation to play final(s) at Jihad though?


Don't think so.....but 4 Melbourne finals into 3 weekend MCG timeslots doesn't go.

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Navy Blue Horse wrote:
Megaman wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
You're right, I got the mix wrong.

Its still Essendon* and St Kildas home ground too though.

Is there still an AFL obligation to play final(s) at Jihad though?


Don't think so.....but 4 Melbourne finals into 3 weekend MCG timeslots doesn't go.


Monday night MCG. Get it done AFL!

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skadoosh wrote:
Can anyone draw up a mock ladder to see what it'd look like if all teams only play once? From playing twice converting it to playing once: 2 wins - 1 win.
1 loss, 1 win - 1 draw
1 win, 1 draw - 3 points etc..

Have fun :D


Interesting concept. I have not looked into the accuracy of these figures in any great depth, but my first crack at a ladder converter says:

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    Pos Team             Played  Points  For    Against   MR     %     
     1   Collingwood         14      52  1668.0   946.0   92.86  176.32
     2   Geelong             16      56  1862.5  1182.5   87.50  157.51
     3   Hawthorn            15      48  1587.0  1105.5   80.00  143.55
     4   Carlton             15      43  1549.5  1154.0   71.67  134.27
     5   WCE                 15      40  1426.5  1220.0   66.67  116.93
     6   Saints              15      36  1275.5  1164.5   60.00  109.53
     7   Essendon*            15      33  1531.5  1454.0   55.00  105.33
     8   Fremantle           15      32  1348.0  1403.5   53.33   96.05
     9   Sydney              15      30  1270.0  1172.0   50.00  108.36
    10   Melbourne           16      30  1461.5  1655.5   46.88   88.28
    11   Kangaroos           16      26  1521.0  1509.0   40.62  100.80
    12   Bulldogs            15      24  1390.0  1450.5   40.00   95.83
    13   Richmond            15      18  1365.5  1680.5   30.00   81.26
    14   Adelaide            15      18  1158.0  1462.0   30.00   79.21
    15   Brisbane            14      10  1110.0  1446.0   17.86   76.76
    16   GCS                 16      10  1073.5  1984.0   15.62   54.11
    17   Port                14       6  1030.0  1638.5   10.71   62.86
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Siegfried
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Megaman wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
You're right, I got the mix wrong.

Its still Essendon* and St Kildas home ground too though.

Is there still an AFL obligation to play final(s) at Jihad though?


I'm pretty certain there is. They have to play a certain number there over a certain period. Can't remember what, but something like 3 over 5 years.

If it's Carl v Syd and St K v Ess, guaranteed we'll be at Etihad.

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which is @#$%&! stupid

based on where the team plays their better footy

carlton would prefer mcg
saints would prefer etihad
bombers would prefer etihad
sydney would prefer etihad

so the team in 8th place is the only one who gets the advantage/benefit of where they would prefer to play

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grrofunger wrote:
which is !@#$%& stupid

based on where the team plays their better footy

carlton would prefer mcg
saints would prefer etihad
bombers would prefer etihad
sydney would prefer etihad

so the team in 8th place is the only one who gets the advantage/benefit of where they would prefer to play


I reckon Scum would prefer to play Saints at MCG than Etihad

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then 7th and 8th get their preference over 5th and 6th

its stupid

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grrofunger wrote:
then 7th and 8th get their preference over 5th and 6th

its stupid

Exactly therefore the teams that finish higher must be given priority re their preference....

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everblue wrote:
skadoosh wrote:
Can anyone draw up a mock ladder to see what it'd look like if all teams only play once? From playing twice converting it to playing once: 2 wins - 1 win.
1 loss, 1 win - 1 draw
1 win, 1 draw - 3 points etc..

Have fun :D


Interesting concept. I have not looked into the accuracy of these figures in any great depth, but my first crack at a ladder converter says:

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    Pos Team             Played  Points  For    Against   MR     %     
     1   Collingwood         14      52  1668.0   946.0   92.86  176.32
     2   Geelong             16      56  1862.5  1182.5   87.50  157.51
     3   Hawthorn            15      48  1587.0  1105.5   80.00  143.55
     4   Carlton             15      43  1549.5  1154.0   71.67  134.27
     5   WCE                 15      40  1426.5  1220.0   66.67  116.93
     6   Saints              15      36  1275.5  1164.5   60.00  109.53
     7   Essendon*            15      33  1531.5  1454.0   55.00  105.33
     8   Fremantle           15      32  1348.0  1403.5   53.33   96.05
     9   Sydney              15      30  1270.0  1172.0   50.00  108.36
    10   Melbourne           16      30  1461.5  1655.5   46.88   88.28
    11   Kangaroos           16      26  1521.0  1509.0   40.62  100.80
    12   Bulldogs            15      24  1390.0  1450.5   40.00   95.83
    13   Richmond            15      18  1365.5  1680.5   30.00   81.26
    14   Adelaide            15      18  1158.0  1462.0   30.00   79.21
    15   Brisbane            14      10  1110.0  1446.0   17.86   76.76
    16   GCS                 16      10  1073.5  1984.0   15.62   54.11
    17   Port                14       6  1030.0  1638.5   10.71   62.86


I heard on SEN someone suggest something like this, ie that if we are going to keep 22 rounds, then each game against sides you play twice should be worth 2 points rather than 4 points. Seems to make sense to me, though I haven't thought about it a great deal.
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Donstuie wrote:
No matter what happens with us (unless we make the top 4) a Saints win next week means we'll be taking on a downward-spiralling, demoralised Swans outfit week 1 of the finals. A perfect opportunity for some payback for last year (our wins against them this year haven't erased that particular pain) and hopefully some much-needed confidence coming up against a reality-checked Eagles at their shithole home ground the week after.


Ye-es....but...if we beat Hawks...and Bombers beat WC....then....
c'mon... DS,Taf and Doof.....
surely you can let go of the Hate for the sake of a Top 4 finish eh???


hmmm...
yeah nah....I can see that aint likely. :lol:

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The Spornstar wrote:
I heard on SEN someone suggest something like this, ie that if we are going to keep 22 rounds, then each game against sides you play twice should be worth 2 points rather than 4 points. Seems to make sense to me, though I haven't thought about it a great deal.



Would that make an 8 point game a 4 point game...

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