Sorry Fevolution, but I disagree strongly with you.

I have been a member of Carlton since I was 7, that was 1975. I have seen Carlton through thick and thin, and I love this club. I have paid thousands and thousands of dollars to support and watch my club, and I consider it a privilege.

But the club comes before the players...any player. You said in an earlier post that any real Carlton supporter loves Fev. Well, I am a real Carlton supporter, and I do not love Fev. I have never loved Fev. When he kicked 8 goals in a half of football, I still didn't love Fev. And I'll tell you why.

You see, Fev is a gifted footballer. He has so much talent it's almost frightening. Some of the things that he does on the football field leave you breathless.

But Fev is also an immature, ego centric, self centred, selfish, childish and petulant individual. When things do not go his way, he sulks and just wants to take his bat and ball and go home. And no, this has nothing to do with Pagan (and I am very much on the get rid of Pagan bandwagon).

You see, Fev has always been like this. He was like this as a teenager, and it was why so many clubs chose not to draft him before we did. It is why it took him so long to break into the team. It is why he was almost delisted. It is why he time and time again gets dragged for being undisciplined on the field. It is why he has got into so much off-field trouble. It is why he had a barman in a headlock in Ireland (and maybe if we'd been harder on him then, he wouldn't be in the position he is now).

And it is why he was overlooked for the Captaincy. It is why, when he had a golden opportunity to put his hand up for the Captaincy that he so badly wants (and is apparently sulking over because he didn't get it), instead of putting his head down and arse up and working hard and contributing to the team, he chose to be undisciplined, petulant, and childish...and surprise, surprise...he got dragged. And his body language whilst sitting on the bench was nothing short of a disgrace.

You see Fevolution, we are all responsible for our actions. If we fail to meet standards of discipline, or to perform in a required way, in whatever area of life, then we have to take responsibility for that...it doesn't matter who you are. And unfortunately, Fev has done it time and time again. It's not like a Murphy, or a Gibbs, who get frustrated sometimes and argue with an ump, it is 10 years + of unacceptable behaviour.

Football is a team game. If you can't contribute as a part of the team, then you shouldn't be there. The argument that we are weak and Fev suffers from poor delivery and poor tactics etc is rubbish. Bob Skilton played 237 games for South Melbourne, won 3 Brownlows, was captain, and incredibly respected...and he played in 1 final in his entire career. Being surrounded by mediocrity was not an excuse for him to throw tantrums.

Someone else on here mentioned Lockett. Want to know his record at St Kilda? Kicked 77 goals in 1984 when they won the wooden spoon, 79 goals in 1985, another wooden spoon, 60 goals in 1986, yep another wooden spoon, 117 goals in 1987, finshed 10th, 78 goals in 1989, finished 3rd bottom...get the picture? And as much as Lockett was a troubled soul, he never spat the dummy on field like Fev does.

No Fevolution, I do not love Fev. When he is on song, when he is marking and goaling and sometimes even chasing, I admire him, and marvel at his skills, and in those moments, I thank the footy gods that he plays for us. But I do not love him, because he is a petulant, childish idiot.

And the problem is, he isn't changing, and he isn't performing, and he isn't contributing to the team. And he is 26, and wants to be Captain.

So, he has two choices. Either he pulls his finger out and finally grows up (and if he does step out of line, then accept responsibility for his own behaviour like an adult), or move on elsewhere.

If we knew that Fev was going to kick 80 goals + for the next 6 seasons, none of us here would want him traded. But he gives no indication that he is prepared to do what is needed to change.

I love the Carlton Football Club. I want whatever is best for the footy club. Simple. Right now, Brendan Fevola is doing nothing for the Club, and in his current space / form / attitude, he is more value for the Club as a potential trade. But that is completely his doing.

his doing more for this club then half of the players on this list. His carried the club for the past 5 years. Carlton supporters are not loyal especially wen it comes to their players. And if you want wat is best for this club then getting rid of fev is not the answer, you get rid of fev, will be in da same shit as we are in now for the next 5 years. Enjoy watchin the footy wit the blues kickin 5 goals a game.

Sorry Fevolution, but I disagree strongly with you.

I have been a member of Carlton since I was 7, that was 1975. I have seen Carlton through thick and thin, and I love this club. I have paid thousands and thousands of dollars to support and watch my club, and I consider it a privilege.

But the club comes before the players...any player. You said in an earlier post that any real Carlton supporter loves Fev. Well, I am a real Carlton supporter, and I do not love Fev. I have never loved Fev. When he kicked 8 goals in a half of football, I still didn't love Fev. And I'll tell you why.

You see, Fev is a gifted footballer. He has so much talent it's almost frightening. Some of the things that he does on the football field leave you breathless.

But Fev is also an immature, ego centric, self centred, selfish, childish and petulant individual. When things do not go his way, he sulks and just wants to take his bat and ball and go home. And no, this has nothing to do with Pagan (and I am very much on the get rid of Pagan bandwagon).

You see, Fev has always been like this. He was like this as a teenager, and it was why so many clubs chose not to draft him before we did. It is why it took him so long to break into the team. It is why he was almost delisted. It is why he time and time again gets dragged for being undisciplined on the field. It is why he has got into so much off-field trouble. It is why he had a barman in a headlock in Ireland (and maybe if we'd been harder on him then, he wouldn't be in the position he is now).

And it is why he was overlooked for the Captaincy. It is why, when he had a golden opportunity to put his hand up for the Captaincy that he so badly wants (and is apparently sulking over because he didn't get it), instead of putting his head down and arse up and working hard and contributing to the team, he chose to be undisciplined, petulant, and childish...and surprise, surprise...he got dragged. And his body language whilst sitting on the bench was nothing short of a disgrace.

You see Fevolution, we are all responsible for our actions. If we fail to meet standards of discipline, or to perform in a required way, in whatever area of life, then we have to take responsibility for that...it doesn't matter who you are. And unfortunately, Fev has done it time and time again. It's not like a Murphy, or a Gibbs, who get frustrated sometimes and argue with an ump, it is 10 years + of unacceptable behaviour.

Football is a team game. If you can't contribute as a part of the team, then you shouldn't be there. The argument that we are weak and Fev suffers from poor delivery and poor tactics etc is rubbish. Bob Skilton played 237 games for South Melbourne, won 3 Brownlows, was captain, and incredibly respected...and he played in 1 final in his entire career. Being surrounded by mediocrity was not an excuse for him to throw tantrums.

Someone else on here mentioned Lockett. Want to know his record at St Kilda? Kicked 77 goals in 1984 when they won the wooden spoon, 79 goals in 1985, another wooden spoon, 60 goals in 1986, yep another wooden spoon, 117 goals in 1987, finshed 10th, 78 goals in 1989, finished 3rd bottom...get the picture? And as much as Lockett was a troubled soul, he never spat the dummy on field like Fev does.

No Fevolution, I do not love Fev. When he is on song, when he is marking and goaling and sometimes even chasing, I admire him, and marvel at his skills, and in those moments, I thank the footy gods that he plays for us. But I do not love him, because he is a petulant, childish idiot.

And the problem is, he isn't changing, and he isn't performing, and he isn't contributing to the team. And he is 26, and wants to be Captain.

So, he has two choices. Either he pulls his finger out and finally grows up (and if he does step out of line, then accept responsibility for his own behaviour like an adult), or move on elsewhere.

If we knew that Fev was going to kick 80 goals + for the next 6 seasons, none of us here would want him traded. But he gives no indication that he is prepared to do what is needed to change.

I love the Carlton Football Club. I want whatever is best for the footy club. Simple. Right now, Brendan Fevola is doing nothing for the Club, and in his current space / form / attitude, he is more value for the Club as a potential trade. But that is completely his doing.

Just listened to Sheahan "On the Couch"

He reckons that Fev is GAWN from Carlton

Funny Sheahan never bags Pagan. I am sure they are mates.
Pagan is probably the "Sneaky Leaker"

why is he gone?

why is he gone?

Sheahan probably knows something that we dont. His mate Denis probably told him.

Sheahan was emphatic about it

How many goals did fev kick in our last two wins when on both occasions we kicked over 20 goals?? No one player is bigger than the team and im glad the hierachy had the balls to come out and make this decision.

Worsfold just said on the couch that no one player is more important in terms of output in a team environment than another. That's coming from the coach of the best player in the comp..... Sounds like he wouldn't touch Fev with a 10 foot pole if he were up for trade!

That says it all I think!!!!!