Cazzesman wrote:
I wasn't going to bother responding but...... I thought you may have turned the corner a few weeks back, but you have just devolved into the same old Keogh. You just talk absolute rubbish based on pure thin air.
That post below is the biggest load of bullocks you have posted in a while and that is saying something.
keogh wrote:
It’s like this to me
I never been on a footy board
In the work place I have been on committees and sat and chaired meetings
So in 38 years I have seen heaps of leadership good and bad
Cazzeman’s points are relevant and valid but what he clearly doesn’t understand is that you have to be human.
Why don't I clearly understand that? I co-managed an office of 160 for 24 months. 70% men 30% women aged from 20-65. I think I have fair grasp on being human when required. At times you read the riot act, at times you mollycoddle and cajole. Every situation is different. Good leaders read their audience and adapt accordingly.
You have to do with care and understanding
You also have to be tough and make hard decisions
Isn't that what I said Leadership requires
Here is what I posted. You obviously didn't read one bit of it the first time.
He has to lead with complete fairness to all and make the hard decisions based on what is best for the Club
He must be clinical in his decision making and make those decisions purely based on facts.
He has to surround himself with the best he possibly can and let them get on with their jobs.
He must be unrelenting in demanding that everyone at the Club knows they are being employed for the betterment of the Club.
When issues arise he must ensure he or the relevant Manager deals with them quickly and professionally.
If he becomes aware of undermining or white anting anywhere within the Club, he needs to come down on it like a ton of bricks.
And my personal 2 rules. 1. No knee jerk reactions to issues. 2. The 1% doesn’t rule the 99%.
A lot of Hardwicks and Goodwin’s positions being retained was about gut feel
Perception
Says who? Reviews were done on both and decisions made based on the findings. Where has it been written anywhere that Gale said we have kept Hardwick on because that's what my gut says. More fictional rubbish
You can do all the reviews you like
And have as much paper work to look over
But
There are some things that you can’t learn reading a manual.
Yes but without the data and the personal interviews and the historical evidence, how does anyone formulate a clear and concise path to follow into the future. it is only once you have you detailed information from across the entire business, that you can go through it and work out the fact from the fiction. But alas, I forgot your own personal skill set......you can watch a 25 min media conference and judge a man running a $25 million dollar business on that. Spare me!
The really good leaders in my time had that extra human factor. There instinctive
And they are a rarity
And consequently the place normally ran like clockwork and everything flowed
Whether Cazzeman likes it or not women are better at that stuff
Whether I like it or not! Simply a stupid throwaway comment to make. Over 40+ years I have worked with men and women as leaders. Some good, some bad. Some Women were born leaders, other not. Likewise the men. For you to cover my mind set in relation to either gender in one sentence is again utter rubbish.
And when it is all said done, do you know what kind of man, husband, brother, father, leader, friend Sayers is?
If Sayers was to go with your 'Gut Feel' way of life, he probably doesn't need any form of process to find a new Coach. He just needs to line up 6 candidates against the wall ala 'The Usual Suspects' and each in turn says the words "I am the coach of Carlton'. And based on his gut feel he picks the winner. Also based on your 38 years of experience and beliefs, Sayers probably should have 3 of the 6 candidates as women.
Out the 81,000 members I wonder how many had even heard of Sayers or knew who he was prior to him taking over the Presidents role?
I certainly hadn't.
Regards CazzesmanI’ve read everything you have said
You don’t have to put it in colour
You and I can agree to disagree on aspects of leadership
Otherwise it will be a cyclic argument
Bit like the six coaches the board’s sacked before their contract was up
Of which Sayers has been part of for nine years and he took virtually no ownership for that shit on Friday
I’ll be interested to see who is on the new board and what their plan is and if it’s better I’ll support them
And we can agree with one thing
There is growing disenchantment about this board from more and more supporters and the media is going with it
So take a Bex give Mrs Caz a cuddle and listen to everything she says