What we are seeing today is boys becoming men. GWS are starting to deliver. Be afraid.

The matches are wet.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Err, could it be because we're also cellar dwellers, i.e. a bona fide bottom 4-6 team? It sucks, but that's where we're at.

The very moment I heard that GWS beat Lions by 45 pts at the Gabba last week, I knew this would be a flowering tough game to win. As I posted previously in this thread, their form has been better than us in the past few weeks, too.

Still talking about something completely different to what we are discussing.

#rexygoingoffontangents

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"If everyone is moving forward together, then success takes care of itself" - Henry Ford

Only saw the second half but that was not a good performance.

It's not just that we lost, it was the way we lost.

Just awful.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

That was the point. From finals last year to cellar dwellers this year.

Haven't won a game since we sacked Bootsma.

Ripped the heart and soul (and other body parts) out of the club.

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BLUES 2010: PAV AND JUDD = FLAGS. DOING IT FOR THE LOVE OF DICK PRATT.

HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

The sack the coach knee jerking is just so tiresome

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TC suffers from the social media illness - the death of respect and constructive discourse by keyboard.

We all know how we made the "finals" and who we beat in that game, our Tiggy mates down the bottom with us this year. The team we displaced in the finals, for all their cheating, have a far better list than us and are far more honest too. That sucks as well.

except when it was Ratts of course.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

Their existence at Carlton has Ratten's sticky fingerprints all over them.

Get rid of them

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If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you!

I get tired of watching Carlton turn half their disposals over.

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"One of my favorite philosophical tenets is that people will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You do not change people's minds." - Frank Zappa

it's been all downhill since we flicked Vance

Gotta laugh ........... I sat there in front of the TV today and didn't utter a sound. Just sad

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"IF YOU FAIL TO PREPARE, YOU'RE PREPARED TO FAIL" - Mark Spitz

Yes I imagine they will be a little upset at being moved on

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"our electorate seeks less to be informed and more to be validated." Sad times.

We are a bottom 3 club.

The sooner EVERYONE realises this the better.

Especially those in charge of the list.

4 wins......

Of those:

WCE 12.17 CARL 14.8 - should have lost, stole it due to their poor kicking

ADEL 10.16 CARL 12.9 - should have been spanked lucky due to poor conversion.

Leaves us with 2 wins really. Against fellow cellar dwellers st kilda and doggies (which we just scraped over the line)

We are BOTTOM 3.

How does no one realise this.....I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

The list situation is so dire, yet we keep hearing we should stay the course FMD

The difference was, we luckily made the finals last year because we beat Melbourne, GWS and Brisbane.

today's loss must be that line in the sand

no more crap about not being far off, playing our best football in 18 months etc etc

surely our first step out of mediocrity is to stop the denial

at least some of the words coming out of the new president's mouth are heading in the right direction

although only words at this stage

Yes we are bottom 3 ....... 4 of the bottom 5 have beaten us

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"IF YOU FAIL TO PREPARE, YOU'RE PREPARED TO FAIL" - Mark Spitz