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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:02 am 
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Thought Warnock played well, thankfully Keogh doesn't agree.

We were always going to lose this, not sure why people didn't see it coming.

Rapidly losing interest in footy though.

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:05 am 
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Tear me down, but Lucas won't be going anywhere for a while and there has been an hysterical overreaction to his ordinary performance last night.

We all know his weaknesses, but he's been making steady progress this year and has been regulalry in the 20 plus possies this year, including a team best 29 last week v Dees. Yeah, I know it's the Dees..

We hardly have a Melb Cup field ready to replace him.

Keep persisting with him, hopefully he'll learn alot from last night.

I agree with much of this for the most part.

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I sat at ground level last night, something I rarely do. 2nd row on the wing.

At that shitstain of a ground you can hear everything.

3rd qtr, right in front of us, lucas was yapping his head off to his opponent like a bad winner who's 15 goals up. In that time he was beaten for possession 3 times and still he went at it around the stoppage.

I may have told him to shut up and get a kick. It didn't work. Summed up the night for me.

and it's hard to imagine that Kane has the commitment or attitude to get the best out of himself. We all hate opposition players that carry on like this, but especially when they've achieved SFA to justify that attitude (Milne's a little turd, but you can't argue that he doesn't have the runs on the board). Kane obviously thinks he's better than he is, and needs a swift kick up the backside.

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:09 am 
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Thought Warnock played well, thankfully Keogh doesn't agree.

We were always going to lose this, not sure why people didn't see it coming.

Rapidly losing interest in footy though.

Agree, i was worried all week as our record against them for the last decade has been terrible.
There are some clubs we just dont play well against. Going to be an interesting few weeks coming up with 3 winnable games against Port, Lions and GWS before games against the drug cheats, Hawks and Swans. Cant bear to think about those last 2 weeks.


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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:12 am 
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Monday night's I usually enjoy..because Monday is over. Last night was rubbish way to end a Monday.

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:13 am 
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We are a joke of a footy club. Once again losing to a side we SHOULD have beaten. Got to the stage that the AINTS now pencil us in for two wins a year. Mentally fragile!! Finally showed some aggression and nearly pinched it. What was going on for the first three quarters? Good sides cover injuries and we are not a good side. When was the last time we won 4 or 5 in a row? 2001 maybe.
Selection table disasters: playing Yarran, three ruckmen.
Granting Kane Lucas and Shaun Hampson a game each week. Lucas seriously scared footballer. Hampson basically no idea.
Waite you are peanut and should have been suspended for another week by the club for being a tool.
A lot of players need to take a good hard look at themselves.
Really peed off!


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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:16 am 
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Did anyone see John Murphy go off at a few of the board members at half time?

Only heard about it afterwards, but from what I understand, wasn't happy with his son being played whilst carrying an injury for a few weeks.

Cantrunbothwaysitis is a cruel disease that seemingly is contagious with a navy blue jumper being worn.

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:18 am 
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The Rhino wrote:
Did anyone see John Murphy go off at a few of the board members at half time?

Only heard about it afterwards, but from what I understand, wasn't happy with his son being played whilst carrying an injury for a few weeks.

Cantrunbothwaysitis is a cruel disease that seemingly is contagious with a navy blue jumper being worn.


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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:22 am 
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I agree completely with Sherrin. He's embarrassing. A pretender. Wanted him gone to Melbourne last year as I felt it would be advantageous to us from a trading position. Now I just want to see the back of him.

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:24 am 
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Sat right behind the Carlton benches again this week and my thoughts...

- The entire team played horribly for three quarters. Not one or two characters but the entire group.
- Losing two immediately killed the rotation system and you could see it on the players on the bench and those coming off. Confusion reigned. At one point Armfield took himself off the ground spent, huffing and puffing, and nobody was ready to come back on. After a few seconds of people pointing around Murphy sprung up off the bench and ran back on. No doubt why Malthouse himself came down with 10 minutes still to play in the 2nd quarter... it was a shambles down there.
- Agree with all re: 3 ruckman won't work. For me it's Hampson who goes for Waite. He goes okay late in games as evidenced that last two weeks, and you can argue a case for him to stay and Kreuzer to go, but Kreuzer at least has a defensive edge to his game (and was clearly not ready to play). Hampson flaps around for much of the game.
- Lucas his worst game for the year. You can say that about a lot of players, though... Murphy, Walker, Robinson, Betts... A dirty night for the entire team.
- Kicking it to McEvoy all night was ridiculous. You'd think after the fourth time they'd learn. Nope. Just stupid football.
- It's been the achilles heel all year. Tackling. We don't do it properly.
- Warnock probably gets BOG. One of the few (Henderson, Jamison, Garlett, Judd, Scotland) who can put their hand up.
- Cachia should stay in the team.
- This game was almost lost before the bounce. Yarran should not have played (Hammy twinge? Take at least a week off, son). 3 rucks (Casboult should have come in).

It just had to be another dirty Monday night game against those dirty Saints.

I'm all but prepared to concede that Carlton has no place in finals this year.

I only hope that Malthouse learns what will never work (but really he should know better).

Surely we must bounce back against Port Adelaide.

In from Waite, Gibbs, Carazzo (what was the result of his scans?), Bell...

You'd think Ellard could be finished at AFL level. His body just won't stand up to it to give him a decent go. Sad to think about.


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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:26 am 
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frank dardew wrote:
yes agreed -lets pick out lucas when apart from 1 or 2 the rest were deplorable - how about have a crack at Jarrad im so selfish waite You cant use Jarred as a comparison He has barely played for this clubor Eddie breaking someones jaw off the play Eddies so called braking of someones jaw was a clash of heads in play, unless he intended to use his own head to break someone jaw, i cant see how he can be put into a category similar or worse than Lucas other than to highlight that Lucas would have shirked a physical clash -period. Theres no way in hell Lucas would even put himself in a position that involved physical contact. Eddies contact at least showed a willingness to make contact, he should be applauded not criticized . - lucas was bad agreed he wasn't simply bad he was shiathouse but he had about 18 other mates and is behind all of them on talent and courage
No I haven't changed when they are deplorable I call it - like I did when we lost to Richmond -tonight was completely incompetent unprofessional in all ways - yarran wasn't fit yet plays who else are you going to play, there is SFA depth -everyone in Australia bar our coaching team thought playing 3 ruckman was going to be a problem -our best forward tall gets suspended for headbutting and misses his 6th match of the season he missed the previous 4 and about half the games lat year and the year before and the year before and so on, get used to it, he wont ever play more than 10-12 games per year. only one laughing tonight is Ratts who knows that these players continually let you down and they can and will do it to the messiah coach as well Ratts chose these players in conjunction with his recruiting dept, theres no celestial or heavenly being that could change their limitations, they are simply not upto it, he should be the one crying not laughing, its an indictment on his coaching.


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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:27 am 
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The Rhino wrote:
I agree completely with Sherrin. He's embarrassing. A pretender. Wanted him gone to Melbourne last year as I felt it would be advantageous to us from a trading position. Now I just want to see the back of him.

Sorry, but who are you talking about?


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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:27 am 
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Rexy wrote:
think brock and hendo are flying the flag - not much else


I think you can throw in Andy Walker , Dennis Armfield, Jeffy and to a lesser extent Jammo.
Not much else to be positive about to date. Our Leadership should be made up from those 5 or 6 names.


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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:28 am 
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kezza wrote:
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I agree completely with Sherrin. He's embarrassing. A pretender. Wanted him gone to Melbourne last year as I felt it would be advantageous to us from a trading position. Now I just want to see the back of him.

Sorry, but who are you talking about?


Murphy

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:29 am 
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On the flipside - we still get a chance to go above Collingwood next week. They play Geelong.


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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:33 am 
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The Rhino wrote:
kezza wrote:
The Rhino wrote:
I agree completely with Sherrin. He's embarrassing. A pretender. Wanted him gone to Melbourne last year as I felt it would be advantageous to us from a trading position. Now I just want to see the back of him.

Sorry, but who are you talking about?


Murphy


I dont remember anything about Murph and Melb.

When was this.

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:34 am 
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KB has had a great time this morning, but what he said about us is true. We wont make finals this year and Richmond will.
I get so sick of us dishing up this crap on a regular basis, why are we so mentally weak?


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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:40 am 
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Michael Jezz wrote:
frank dardew wrote:
yes agreed -lets pick out lucas when apart from 1 or 2 the rest were deplorable - how about have a crack at Jarrad im so selfish waite or Eddie breaking someones jaw off the play - lucas was bad agreed but he had about 18 other mates
No I haven't changed when they are deplorable I call it - like I did when we lost to Richmond -tonight was completely incompetent unprofessional in all ways - yarran wasn't fit yet plays -everyone in Australia bar our coaching team thought playing 3 ruckman was going to be a problem -our best forward tall gets suspended for headbutting and misses his 6th match of the season

only one laughing tonight is Ratts who knows that these players continually let you down and they can and will do it to the messiah coach as well


Did Lucas have lots of weak mates out there tonight? FFS he was the worst of them all
Will Lucas make it in afl? Doubtful. No football brain Not Doubtful its certain, its not the talent he lacks that's most embarrassing its the courage to put his body on the line, its sissy like. Eddies is Garlet are half his size and have more courage than he does.
Don't give him Russell like benefit of the doubt Russel is heaps better than Lucas


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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:41 am 
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kezza wrote:
The Rhino wrote:
I agree completely with Sherrin. He's embarrassing. A pretender. Wanted him gone to Melbourne last year as I felt it would be advantageous to us from a trading position. Now I just want to see the back of him.

Sorry, but who are you talking about?

I was about to ask the same thing


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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:42 am 
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KB has had a great time this morning, but what he said about us is true. We wont make finals this year and Richmond will.
I get so sick of us dishing up this crap on a regular basis, why are we so mentally weak?

The old turd was bound to get something right eventually

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:43 am 
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This kid shows more ticker than some of the blokes on the ground.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/quee ... 6641522961

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But the similarities end there, because Zach has CVID (common variable immunodeficiency), which strikes one in 50,000 people


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