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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:47 am 
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This is my belief...

We are one key forward away from a premiership.

That is all.

I agree someone who can take a mark or bring the ball to ground.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:49 am 
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Let's just say, I'd much prefer forward-line versions of Jamison, Laidler and/or Duigan than some over-priced gorilla, that way, we may be able to have our cake and eat it, so to speak.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:50 am 
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Interesting how people have different views of the game
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx

Marcus Davies - 8
A tremendous defensive game from the 13-gamer, limiting the influence of dangerous forward Mark LeCras. Kept LeCras to just 12 possessions and a goal, and picked up a handy seven disposals himself out of defence.


and my mate

Setanta O'hAilpin - 3
Spent most of the game as Carlton's tall forward option but couldn't get away from Darren Glass. Didn't kick a goal and finished with 10 possessions and four marks

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:50 am 
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SB - We went in with O'hAilpin as our main KP forward (cough). Thornton played well against Essendon* but was not going to reproduce that against the eagles backline. Needed some support.
We had Hampson/Bower with us .... Hampson needed to play. EOS. At worse Bower to go back and Jamison forward (just so it makes Ratten feel all warm and fuzzy instead of who I think!)
Davies as sub made no sense - nothing against the guy but made no sense to have him sub. Not a KP or Runner.
This hurts ... a lot .... but I think it hurts more because we could have won this with the rigth selections.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:52 am 
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Davies wasn't the sub :?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:52 am 
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DIAMOTISM wrote:
missnaut wrote:
How is it that we get players like Waite, Jamo, Gibbs, Kreuzer all get injured and either come back on and have zero impact or disappear for weeks.

yet players like Cox, Kerr, Kennedy, and Buddy last night seem to have no ill-effects.

It shits me.


Cox, Kerr, Buddy should not be compared to Waite, Jamo, Gibbs & Kreuzer. You are comparing Master Jedi's with their apprentices. Kennedy is on his way and is a better player than all the guys you mentioned too.


I don't think it was a comparison of who's a better player, just that when we cop an injury to our key players they seem to not play for longer than should/could be the case.

Don't agree with your judgement on Kennedy. He is good, but Jamo is better and Gibbs has also done more in his career so far despite being a year younger. JK has two years and one less reco on Kreuz, so can't compare those two. Still, I'd love to have JK, obviously.

Agree that it sucks how Collingwood got a shot at West Coast without two of their guns. The leadup to this game reminded me of the one against Brisbane 2 years back, with a few of their guns being under big injury clouds and then coming good and playing like they are 100% fit.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:53 am 
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I thought setanta did his job. Took some strong contested marks and dished off a couple of visionary, albeit awkward looking, foot passes.
Was at sea in the ruck but that was not his fault.
Still think we play better with him in the team.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:53 am 
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CK95 wrote:
Davies wasn't the sub :?


Sorry my bad. Just delirious with joy currently.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:55 am 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
SB - We went in with O'hAilpin as our main KP forward (cough). Thornton played well against Essendon* but was not going to reproduce that against the eagles backline. Needed some support.
We had Hampson/Bower with us .... Hampson needed to play. EOS. At worse Bower to go back and Jamison forward (just so it makes Ratten feel all warm and fuzzy instead of who I think!)
Davies as sub made no sense - nothing against the guy but made no sense to have him sub. Not a KP or Runner.
This hurts ... a lot .... but I think it hurts more because we could have won this with the rigth selections.



You don't take a bloke who was AA fullback 8 weeks ago and move him forward
Bower has never done anything to convince me he is any good

And thornton was terrific last week and good last night until he got injured

Davies held Lecras to one goal and was our second best according to Chris Pike

and drovers dog would have been better than Setanta last night

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:55 am 
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17th Premiership wrote:
I thought setanta did his job. Took some strong contested marks and dished off a couple of visionary, albeit awkward looking, foot passes.
Was at sea in the ruck but that was not his fault.
Still think we play better with him in the team.


Setanta is not the answer, jujs makes too many mistakes and gives away to many frees
Tries hard can't doubt that but to win a Flag we need more


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:59 am 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Interesting how people have different views of the game
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx

Marcus Davies - 8
A tremendous defensive game from the 13-gamer, limiting the influence of dangerous forward Mark LeCras. Kept LeCras to just 12 possessions and a goal, and picked up a handy seven disposals himself out of defence.


and my mate

Setanta O'hAilpin - 3
Spent most of the game as Carlton's tall forward option but couldn't get away from Darren Glass. Didn't kick a goal and finished with 10 possessions and four marks


Reckon that rating is rough on Setanta. He took a few good marks and battled ok. Should have scored a goal at least though.

"Lachie Henderson - 8
Finished off his transformation into a defender this season with a superb effort to be the rock of the Blues' back-line. Spent most of his night on Quinten Lynch and kept him relatively quiet, but also worked off Lynch well to help his teammates. Also provided strong drive out of defence with his 17 possessions. Possibly the best performance of his 49-game career."

Am loving Hendo's finish to the season. I thought his game against Petrie was the best performance of his career, then his game against Buddy, then the game against Riewoldt, then last week's game, now this week's game, he is getting better and better by the week. Thanks Fev.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:00 am 
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West Coast 15.11.101
Carlton 15.8.98

Eagles missed more than we did.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:04 am 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
CK95 wrote:
Davies wasn't the sub :?


Sorry my bad. Just delirious with joy currently.



Me too.

No papers or radio for me for the next few days.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:04 am 
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Sugarcane wrote:
17th Premiership wrote:
I thought setanta did his job. Took some strong contested marks and dished off a couple of visionary, albeit awkward looking, foot passes.
Was at sea in the ruck but that was not his fault.
Still think we play better with him in the team.


Setanta is not the answer, jujs makes too many mistakes and gives away to many frees
Tries hard can't doubt that but to win a Flag we need more


You're probably right, but we are down to our bare bones in terms of key position forwards. We had to play him. He did pretty well in his three games back in, but agree we need better for a flag.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:06 am 
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dommo25 wrote:
Totally TOTALLY robbed.

Jamieson's spoil in the goalsquare (in the back???) was perfect. Weagles players "handing" the ball to a teammate (throw every time). Cox (or was it Lynch) was caught red-handed (at the edge of our goalsquare) and didn't dispose of the ball properly in that last frantic minute. Tuohy has his arms blatantly chopped on the half forward line. 3rd q - Weagles player brilliantly tackled & dropped the ball ... play on??? Murphy slung by Natanui AFTER he kicked it is a free DOWNFIELD every time.

And so on, and so forth. I'm sure others could add to this list.

The AFL has a real problem on its hands with umpires who let their emotions get the better of them in front of howling interstate crowds. We're not the first team to be robbed interstate and we won't be the last but it's not good enough. The players deserve better.

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absolute blight on the game!

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:08 am 
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CK - been receiving texts messages like - "brave blues (smiles attached)" & "told you it was going to be close but not good enough" & the best of the all "Cotchin in your team tonight and you would have won". I guess you can tell what teams supporters they are coming from. :mad:


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:20 am 
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
West Coast 15.11.101
Carlton 15.8.98

Eagles missed more than we did.


Yeah but we missed ALL the easy ones. Can you name one easy one they missed ??

Worst umpiring I've seen since the last interstate game I watched :smile: It is just a joke the cr#p that you have to put up with to win these games. There were at least 6 or 7 "howlers" - the non dropping the ball in the 3rd and the one not paid against Lynch. Paying too high against Kerr when he was gone cold, Duigan arms chopped/too high you name it.........the list goes on. That 2nd quarter was a joke, and combined with Murphy's terrible misses, cost us massively.

Very sad to see how far Judd has fallen in the last month. Ironic that he is one of the main reason's we've risen to where we are, but also was one of the main reasons we didn't win. Tough call I know, but he has been tagged out of games far too easily lately and lacks leg speed. I would have played him in the fwd pocket the whole 2nd half - at least he has great hands and can create goals.

And not playing Hammer was a really poor decision. Davies may have done well on LeCras but Hammer could have won the match for us from the goalsquare and he can RUCK which Setanta cannot do. 202cm+ on a dry night and he was marking well before he got injured and kicked 2 bags for the Ants. Why not take a punt on him instead of playing a young HBF ?? No guts - no glory !!!

One of these days we'll win a close final, but for now it just Flowering sucks.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:25 am 
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And not playing Hammer was a really poor decision. Davies may have done well on LeCras but Hammer could have won the match for us from the goalsquare and he can RUCK which Setanta cannot do. 202cm+ on a dry night and he was marking well before he got injured and kicked 2 bags for the Ants. Why not take a punt on him instead of playing a young HBF ?? No guts - no glory !!!

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:26 am 
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In the end we had to many passengers. Players from 16-22 like Davies, Armfield, Joesph, Ohalipin etc were ordinary and cost us the game.

The sooner we get rid of the deadwood, the sooner we will play in a Grand Final.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:43 am 
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Donstuie wrote:
MIL wrote:
And not playing Hammer was a really poor decision. Davies may have done well on LeCras but Hammer could have won the match for us from the goalsquare and he can RUCK which Setanta cannot do. 202cm+ on a dry night and he was marking well before he got injured and kicked 2 bags for the Ants. Why not take a punt on him instead of playing a young HBF ?? No guts - no glory !!!

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ok.........first I'd heard of that. Rotten luck then.


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