Synbad wrote:
Teen Spirit wrote:
yes it would be a different set of rules for Scotland or someone of lesser calibur than fev. That's the entire point. He's a 2 time coleman medalist and he's one of the biggest and best players in the sport. THAT is why we need him. Take a hard line by all means, but dont drop him. Its simply bad business.
bad business is what fev is...
he cant manage himself....
he is going the way of elliott and we all know where he went...
I'm glad someone has brought up Elliott. There were plenty of people with whom I spoke, family and friends, passionate Carlton people all, who could see quite clearly that Elliott needed to be removed way before the sh1t eventually hit the proverbial. The rest of Elliott's life was heading down the toilet...his business empire had fallen over, his marriage had fallen apart, he was declared bankrupt and not allowed to be a director of a company, forced to sell his house (whithout telling his soon-to-be ex-wife...hello???). It was clear that the Club was starting to go backwards in terms of membership and finances, and was not coming to grips with the changing face of football, of how a football club needed to be run. Even at the EGM at the end of 2002, and on here, the Elliott apologists were out in force.
What would have happened had Elliott been voted out in, say, 1997? We may have missed a GF? We may have won a GF? What if he had been voted out in 1992? We may not have won the '95 flag, we may have won '95 AND '94. No one will ever know.
But one thing is for sure, the Club wouldn't have got into the mess it did. The Club would not have endured it's darkest days. The Club may not have won 3 wooden spoons. It may not have won any. We may look at it now and say it is all ok, but only because we were SO bad that we got a raft of early picks, and Pratt came in because he didn't want to see his club die.
The Club is bigger than any individual. And sometimes the Club needs to take a hit in the short term to set itself up for the long term.
We may or may not win a Flag before Fevola retires, if he stays at the Club. And most will feel that if we don't, then it's not a complete disaster, our window will still be well and truly open, the Judd/Muprhy/Gibbs/Kreuzer era still well and truly alive. But if we don't win a flag with Fevola, and then we don't win a Flag in the Judd/Muprhy/Gibbs/Kreuzer era, it will be nothing short of a calamity.
We need to make sure that whatever happens now, it does not negatively impact our chances of winning a flag in the next
10 years, not the next 3 years. And the surest way to compromise that aim, off-field, is to have weak leadership and poor culture. How are we all going to feel when Adelaide comes knocking on Gibbs' door, offers him $800,00 a year for 5 years, and Gibbs' decides he'd rather play at a club where his teammates don't have his girlfriend in tears? Or his girlfriend says that this is what she would prefer, "you'll earn great money Bryce, you'll be playing in a great team, great coach, great culture, and you'll be back with all your family and mates...and Bryce, I'll be much happier there too"?
And then Gibbs is gone. And then who knows what the flow on effect from that is.
Once again, I am not definitively saying we need to trade Fevola. I am saying that whatever action the Club decides to take, it needs to stop pandering to this imbecile, to grow some balls, and to make some seriously tough decisions, decisions that will almost certainly hurt us in the short term.
It is time for this Club to get up in front of the football world and declare what it stands for.