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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:59 pm 
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I must say I am proud of David for finally figuring out that Samo is NOT a defender. It took him 18 months but he got there. Congrats David!


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Who would you suggest taking out of the midfield to appease Samo out of curiosity?

Currently we have Cripps, Walsh, Curnow, Dow and Kennedy.

Maybe some want to play the game with 15 midfielders just to make them happy.


I want rotation, so we don’t end up with the above mentioned ran off their feet and unable to chase and put pressure on. Happy for Samo to switch between HFF and midfield.

That said, midfield doesn’t have to mean centre bounces. The games essentially played with 10-12 midfielders these days. Some more offensively minded, some more defensively minded. You can’t expect to be winning many games with 5 blokes going through the midfield


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:05 pm 
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Careful. TC's own Mrs Teague will hunt you down. (I wonder if she's related to Hendo's Mum?)
Meanwhile our reserves are 25 points down at half time to Coburg in the VFL. The entire coaching department needs a massive shake up.


Plot twist! Mrs Teague is Hendo’s mum!

To be fair, the VFL side is ridiculously light on at the moment. With our injury list there’s only a handful of AFL listed players there and most of them are kids. Currently 15 senior listed players out… that has to be close to a record


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jake_h03 wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Careful. TC's own Mrs Teague will hunt you down. (I wonder if she's related to Hendo's Mum?)
Meanwhile our reserves are 25 points down at half time to Coburg in the VFL. The entire coaching department needs a massive shake up.


Plot twist! Mrs Teague is Hendo’s mum!

To be fair, the VFL side is ridiculously light on at the moment. With our injury list there’s only a handful of AFL listed players there and most of them are kids. Currently 15 senior listed players out… that has to be close to a record



To be fair to the opposition. How many AFL listed players did Coburg or Northern Bullants have?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:32 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
jake_h03 wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Careful. TC's own Mrs Teague will hunt you down. (I wonder if she's related to Hendo's Mum?)
Meanwhile our reserves are 25 points down at half time to Coburg in the VFL. The entire coaching department needs a massive shake up.


Plot twist! Mrs Teague is Hendo’s mum!

To be fair, the VFL side is ridiculously light on at the moment. With our injury list there’s only a handful of AFL listed players there and most of them are kids. Currently 15 senior listed players out… that has to be close to a record



To be fair to the opposition. How many AFL listed players did Coburg or Northern Bullants have?


Funny,i asked the same question " Vain ".

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:58 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
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Careful. TC's own Mrs Teague will hunt you down. (I wonder if she's related to Hendo's Mum?)
Meanwhile our reserves are 25 points down at half time to Coburg in the VFL. The entire coaching department needs a massive shake up.


Plot twist! Mrs Teague is Hendo’s mum!

To be fair, the VFL side is ridiculously light on at the moment. With our injury list there’s only a handful of AFL listed players there and most of them are kids. Currently 15 senior listed players out… that has to be close to a record



To be fair to the opposition. How many AFL listed players did Coburg or Northern Bullants have?


None, but they probably have a more stable list of senior players playing week in week out. This is often a benefit as teams are playing senior players to win rather than playing kids to develop. Big reason for Port Melbourne’s success over the years. The point is not whether they are AFL listed or not, it’s the number important players that are missing.

Disappointing results I agree, but our VFL team is barely recognisable atm


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:45 pm 
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The emergence of Paddy Dow as a viable on-ball option is something Teague will have to address in the review. Dow himself has credited the level-up to a change in training behaviour which, in itself, is an interesting comment to make.

What was he doing for the first 25 weeks of the working year?

Why didn’t the coaching staff move to correct this behaviour earlier?

There’s sure to be a path out of this mess for Teague, but there will be blood.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:56 pm 
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Why would you punish Teague for mistakes he has corrected?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:16 pm 
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It's no coincidence that the improvement in Dow , Kennedy and SPS has been since Barker has left and Power elevated into the midfield coaching role.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:39 pm 
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It's no coincidence that the improvement in Dow , Kennedy and SPS has been since Barker has left and Power elevated into the midfield coaching role.

Just to add some balance to the topic - under Barker we averaged 37 clearances per game and under Power we are averaging 26 clearances. This may be attributable in part to the ruck situation, but it’s fact.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:48 pm 
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how important is the cats game now for the entire coaching group,can they raise to occasion of another important game or fail like the rest of games that meaning.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:08 pm 
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Why would you punish Teague for mistakes he has corrected?

The aim of the exercise isn’t to meter out punitive damages.

You would be asking how come Dow was a non-factor until the Essendon* game. It’s all well & good to be a change agent when the pressure is on, but why not make something happen in the pre-season?

Teague’s answer may well be that all of Barker, Stanton, Power & O’Keeffe either missed it, or they were feeding him a bunch of bulldust… Maybe they all knew, but the ones behind him are crap at footy, so what else could he do.

Just saying, there’s a lot to be learned from just one player.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:20 pm 
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Has he corrected it though if Freo had kicked straight they would have won by 5 goals
Happy to win last 2 weeks but not playing anyone in the 8 or likely to play finals so let’s take it with a grain of salt
Signs are better but need more evidence
I’m still not convinced apart from Geelong and Port we should beat most of the other opposition we are playing
For example looking at Collingwood today we should beat them comfortably but couldn’t in first round so not confident
Should be evenly matched against Stkilda and GWS but shocking record against both and pathetic last time against GWS jury is out let’s look at whole season and not 2 enjoyable but by no means emphatic victories


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:24 pm 
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Didnt attack enough last night.
Fwd 50 was left vacant to appease followers of homogeneous football.
Need a point of difference to win flags.

If the game plan is to restrict the opposition from scoring rather than free flowing football I will be disappointed.

But considering we are getting anhialated in the clearances might not be a bad thing and revert to boring homogeneous football.... everyone other than top 2-3 teams play the same way.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:48 pm 
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aboynamedsue wrote:
deano35 wrote:
It's no coincidence that the improvement in Dow , Kennedy and SPS has been since Barker has left and Power elevated into the midfield coaching role.

Just to add some balance to the topic - under Barker we averaged 37 clearances per game and under Power we are averaging 26 clearances. This may be attributable in part to the ruck situation, but it’s fact.



sorry abns, we dont need facts.

its all barker's fault

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 8:12 pm 
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bender wrote:
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deano35 wrote:
It's no coincidence that the improvement in Dow , Kennedy and SPS has been since Barker has left and Power elevated into the midfield coaching role.

Just to add some balance to the topic - under Barker we averaged 37 clearances per game and under Power we are averaging 26 clearances. This may be attributable in part to the ruck situation, but it’s fact.



sorry abns, we dont need facts.

its all barker's fault

Sorry, I thought it was all Murphy’s fault.

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It’s not about how many clearances, but what you do with them.

IMO it’s too early to talk about the real impacts of Barker leaving, but what isn’t in dispute is that the quality of our clearances were absolute garbage under his watch.

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Donstuie wrote:
It’s not about how many clearances, but what you do with them.

IMO it’s too early to talk about the real impacts of Barker leaving, but what isn’t in dispute is that the quality of our clearances were absolute garbage under his watch.


What isn’t in dispute is that we are winning less clearances since Barker left. The stats are the stats. Plus, we can see it with our own eyes that teams are smashing us at stoppages.

As I said earlier, the ruck situation could be a key reason. And I’m certainly not suggesting that we should bring back Barker. I’m just throwing some facts into the mix. We haven’t been a good stoppages team all year and we’ve been getting statistically worse over the past few weeks.

We’ve won the last 2 games against mid/lower table teams who haven’t had the firepower to overcome our improved defence. That won’t be the case against Geelong; it will get very ugly on Saturday unless we find a way to breakeven at the clearances.

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For once we played with something that resembles a team defence when the opposition had the ball.
We managed space better than we have to date. We pushed numbers back when required and the communication/connection in defence was much better. We still have a couple of bludgers who don't work hard enough in transition but they will be dragged along if the remaining players place expectation on them.
Apparently the players have been working on it the past month and we're finally seeing a bit of improvement in that area. Credit to the coaches for getting their heads out of their backsides and releasing the playing group into the modern game.

I mentioned a few weeks ago that our strategy of stretching the ground hangs the defence out to dry and we'll know it shifts when we see goals coming out the back. The past couple of weeks we're seeing that. It's no coincidence that players like Saad and Williams will come into their own now. These are the moves that can see Teague retain his job.
It shows he can adapt and evolve. His next step is to innovate instead of stubbornly taking 18 months to catch up.

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Blue Vain wrote:
For once we played with something that resembles a team defence when the opposition had the ball.
We managed space better than we have to date. We pushed numbers back when required and the communication/connection in defence was much better. We still have a couple of bludgers who don't work hard enough in transition but they will be dragged along if the remaining players place expectation on them.
Apparently the players have been working on it the past month and we're finally seeing a bit of improvement in that area. Credit to the coaches for getting their heads out of their backsides and releasing the playing group into the modern game.

I mentioned a few weeks ago that our strategy of stretching the ground hangs the defence out to dry and we'll know it shifts when we see goals coming out the back. The past couple of weeks we're seeing that. It's no coincidence that players like Saad and Williams will come into their own now. These are the moves that can see Teague retain his job.
It shows he can adapt and evolve. His next step is to innovate instead of stubbornly taking 18 months to catch up.


So him being stubborn , cost of a spot in the 8 wins against eagles , and swans !! And now the pressure is off he wants to change his team defence to Save his job because the review

This only proves we have a list capable , he just mismanaged it !!

Sorry he had his chance ...

The only highlights for the rest of the season is to keep watching dow , owies , stocker keep developing , weiters is going to another level with Walsh and McKay

Very disappointed in Teague it took him 16 weeks for us to show grit and also let’s not forget we only played crows and freo

Let’s see how we finish this season ...

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2021 6:11 am 
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It took the coaching staff four weeks to adapt to defensive football where other football depts takes at least a year and Bolton never got it right.

Attacking free flowing football is harder and takes longer to coach . We have the players with flair and talent just not winning the clearances and there has been no improvement all year in that area.

I am not sure what the answer is - but hopefully Bam Bam and Dow keep getting better remainder of the season and start breaking even in clearances so we can start blowing teams away.

This rigid defensive football shouldn't define the Blues. But only a layer to the prime game plan.


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