How was Luke Beveridges playing career? Or Alistair Clarkson? Both very average kicks of the footy.
Brent Stanton was a Rolls Royce compared to those 2.

Our supporters are really finding creative things to whinge about. It's quite entertaining really.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Did you expect anything less, same bullshit from the same culprits!!

Experts on everything and have little or no experience in playing any form of high pressure football/ sport or even better still, coaching any sport at any level !!

Heat has to come on to the assistant coaches if the stupid mindless junior errors continue though. They keep happening week after week.

Panic turnover kicks forward out of the stoppage rather than handballing back to a man in space, punching the ball to advantage of the opposition, ...just those rookie errors that should be fixed quickly.

Yeah why is it the assistant coaches always get off scot free?

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Why stop...Allan Jeans, Alan Joyce, Tom Hafey were all just good ordinary players

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If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you!

Stanton is employed as a line coach (midfield) for the Northern Blues ... he is not employed as a skills coach.

I get the youth thing, I get the re-build, I even get the injuries, but there's so much more to what I'm saying than that. There's no need o be angry or offended by our opinions.

One way or the other, we should know within 12 months. I hope you're right.

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I reckon Bolts has been a little unlucky this year.
We lost Doc in pre season. Our second best runner/rebound defender in 2017 Williamson hasn't played a game. He played 15 last year.
The midfielder most likely to fill some of the void from the loss of Gibbs in Lang hasn't played a game due to injury.
We lost what was shaping up as our break out crumbing forward/Midfield pinch hitter in Pickett due to injury.
Our hard nut defender Silvagni was influential last year also out injured and hasn't played a game. He could lock down a key forward that would free up a Weitering type to roam a lot more.
Kruz, Marchbank and to a lesser extent Kennedy injured early in the season .Clearly playing crook.
Its no wonder some of the young guys have lost confidence. It hasn't been the luckiest start to a season. Things will turn.

Some good points daggs.

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Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

Sydney & trublu,

You've identified what you see as the problem.

Repeatedly. And over again.

What do you see as the solution.

It's easy to throw shit.

With the insights you each have, what's the solution?

Regards

OR

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The solution is winning more games OR.

You’re clearly not paying attention!

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Turkish Proverb

I back the Blues, MLG and Bolts.

Those making decisions are good people with passion for Blues success.

Not one person at the club, not one, is content with where we are at.

The plan is well laid.

The execution of the plan may be slower than some expected.

It may be harder, uglier and more challenging than anyone had expected.

Once it comes to fruition it will deliver sustained success in the (new) AFL era.

The club and all those involved are invested in delivering long term sustainable success.

Yep, mistakes have been made. Nonethelsss, on balance more good decisions have been made and delivered on than mistakes made.

The courage & conviction to stay the course is what will set Carlton apart from St Kilda, Ess, Brisbane, Melb and others.

It is hard to watch our overall games at present.

Look for the small wins. Look for Dow, O'Brien taking steps forward. Enjoy Kennedy's 4th quarter Vs the Dogs. Enjoy watching Fisher become a great of our club. In time it will come together.

When we deliver sustained success it will be each of these small developments, in the context of some shit matches, that enables the success.

I'm committed and on board.

Regards

OR

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Bang on OR...

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Doc, Williamson, Pickett and Lang all move the ball well running ... this is clearly a problem right now

Silvagni ... was locking down some big names and has a bit of shit in him which is clearly lacking right now

Well said OR

Your best work since “Essendon* are [REDACTED]”

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Agree with you OR.

A win would be great for the boys, we know they are trying hard and as real supporters that's all you can ask.

They need change in the front office the current lot have no ability to keep talent or attract talent.
They need to change the message they are putting out and remove the word rebuild from their vocabulary.
They now need to find 4 or 5 seasoned bodies to protect what we have and teach what we have


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I can see da meedya’s strategy here.

Tighten the screws daily, keep repeating “Is Bolton in trouble?”, “Worst start ever” etc, hoping the club will crack and do what it’s always done.

Then blast the club for another short-sighted “old Carlton” decision.

Don’t take the bait, Blues.

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you are talking like all we have to do is see this thing out and success is guaranteed. but it is not. what if bolton isn't the right coach? by how many months or years will that delay us?

the rebuild is essential. no question ... but there's genuine questions as to whether we have the right staff on board to deliver it.

match committee selections
line coaching
game day strategy
development of youth

a reserves strategy which translates into seniors football.


as a club we're in a bit of a crisis. the women poorly underperformed. the reserves are woeful. really hard to watch woeful, and the seniors are on track to be the worst AFL team ever.

if this was year one of the rebuild, I'd not bat an eyelid. if it was year two, i'd start to get that gut feeling that maybe our current staff ins't the right mix. tinkering may be needed.

the fact it's year three and we've actually taken a few steps back from last season, and i'm pretty concerned. I'm concerned there is a detachment between coach and players and the tangible issue that we have a guy who's never played AFL footy steering the ship.

how long do we persist with bolton, when in year three he is yet to tick off a KPI?

some players are stagnating in their development, while others are taking backwards steps. last season we played committed football where we never lay down for no one. when the player's onfield commitment wanes (as ours is) historically speaking, it's an indicator that the coach may have lost the group, or they don't believe in his tactics.


i think there are many people here who conflate the issue of our absolute need to rebuild, with the fact that Bolton must be that guy to rebuild us. i think we have 50% of the forward strategy in place.

the rebuild and injection of draft picks and turning over the deadwood which has anchored the club is 110% the right path we have to take. and not deviate from that path bcos of public or media pressure.

but i don't feel like we have the right coach implementing our rebuild. an unknown quantity of a coach, who's never head coached a seniors AFL team before, and hasn't played a single game of AFL footy, should have our alarm bells ringing.


I'd just hate to see us as a club blindly following this rebuild path and backing the coaching 100% when there are problems within the club and coaching. the noticeable drop off since Neill Craig has left, the fair and just questioning into is Bolton the right coach, and the development of our gun draft picks are three big issues, but there are more.

I kinda disagree with this whole bit that bolton talks about this is Carlton's first proper rebuild. It is not. Why did we tank 3 seasons in a row to get Murhpy, Kruezer and Gibbs? was that not by definition a total rebuild?

I have one question for MLG or Judd or anyone else on our board.

we'd all agree that Kreuzer, Gibbs and Murphy and those high draft picks from that era never lived up to our expectations of them as No1 picks. The never delivered us more than semi final football. which we all quite fairly deem as a failure.

So, what has the club done, and what development strategies has it put into place to ensure this next batch of elite picks do not follow the first? ie failure.

Well said as usual OR -enjoy your thoughtful and sensible contributions - I think there are many on this site feeling similarly and have backed and will continue to back present course and strategy

Agree see little rays of sunshine in performances - but obviously is frustrating watching ATM when our own ineptitude leads usually to our demise or contributes greatly to it and natives would not be half as restless if we could have won at least one game and yes I'm a broken record in my view the Gold Coast game in particular was the one that could have been the circuit breaker

Anyway still going to support going to games and encouraging others to do the same and that's all we can do at the moment