We have been crapsinceround 11 last year
Everything sucks about the club
The recruiting development of players our coaching staff and leadership on the field
Crash and bash footy doesn’t win you flags

What "Plan B" would you like to see?
You can't just turn the board upside down after you've completed a pre-season on how you want to play the game. I saw 5 or 6 major changes to our structure/strategies Thursday night from the previous week. I'm not sure what more people want.
We came up against a team who many are tipping to play in the grand final. Despite being on the wrong end of 2 goal reviews, a goal overturned from a free kick that wouldn't be paid 19 times out of 20 and not receiving a free kick/50 m penalty that the AFL conceded we should have received, we were in the game until the end.
All this with Charlie at about 25%, Walsh at about 50% and our other Coleman medallist not playing. Not to mention our pick 3 (who is going to be a gun) and the runner up of our last 2 best and fairest counts.

It's confusing. We've got 50% of posters saying Voss can't coach. Yet he got this team into a prelim in 2023 and an elimination final last year with clearly the worst injury list in the AFL. We must have a bloody fantastic list if our coach is holding us back and we've still won 2 of our last 4 finals.
But no, 40% of posters are saying the list is no good and Austin should be sacked. Bloody hell, Voss must be a master coach to have got a shit list to consecutive finals series. Which is it?

I'd suggest it could be somewhere in the remaining 10%. It's 2 games of footy. We have lost 2 games of a 23 round season. Last year the Lions lost 5 of the 7 and everyone wanted the coach sacked. How did that turn out?
If we miss the finals, by all means blow up the club but until then, back the club in and have faith. Against the Tigers our conversion and disposal was poor but slippery conditions in both games suited outside, front running teams.

I heard Scott Pendlebury interviewed on Saturday. The most experienced player in the game. He said in Collingwood's first game, they were so wound up the players lost their heads and everyone tried to do it all individually. It's exactly how it looked with us.

I thought our effort and strategies were good on Thursday night with the personnel available. Better finishing in front of goal and we could have easily won both games. Let's calm the farm and see where we are at later in the season. I still have faith that with a reasonable run with injury, we'll be playing finals. Once you're there, history shows anyone can win if things go your way.

Are you employed by the Carlton Football Club?

The team that was in the top 2 for clearances, contested marks and inside 50's won the 2024 flag so to suggest crash and bash footy doesn't win flags is nonsense.
If our recruiting is crap and the coaches are crap, how have we played finals the past 2 years? How did we win 2 finals? Obviously you can't do that with a shit list and shit coaches. So which is it? Make your mind up.

You're typical of where we are at Keogh. One week you're saying we're crap. A month later you're saying you were wrong and after a few losses, we're crap again!

As the saying goes, "it's never as good as it seems and never as bad as it seems". For some.

I’ve always maintained that you give a coach a minimum 3 years
After that you should see some improvement and a path to success which doesn’t mean more wins
But as a supporter you should see some direction the club is heading in a positive direction light after that 3 year period
I can’t see that with Voss
The final last year was the worst display of coaching ever
Period in regards to tactics and selection

So what did you see tactically that did and didn't work Thursday night?
I'll wait. I'd suggest it's a throw away line used by supporters because they don't recognise what's going on. Just like the "Plan B" argument.
Because you don't see something doesn't mean it isn't happening.