Crusader wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Crusader wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Crusader wrote:
Wouldn’t surprise me one bit if we were paying a slice of Owies’ & Kennedy’s wages. Two deals that HAD to be done.
Now you're pulling my leg, and what looks like to me, taking a pot shot at Austin. Easy Tiger
No pot shots. I think he’s doing pretty well.
I’ve worked with him in the past. I know for a fact that he sees List Management as just that. Something to be managed. Not a contest.
Some say he’s inflexible. Others would appreciate that he won’t get distracted by sudden changes in the market.
Don’t forget, Kennedy was the one who blew it up. He was going into the third year of a three year deal. The Doggies wouldn’t have been looking for a player on that kind of money.
Similarly, West Coast are at the epicentre of ‘livewire’ forwards. FFS, they were doing a deal for Baker… we needed the list spot & the points more than they needed Owies.
5% isn’t a war chest.
Yeah I get the need for spots. I was sort of desperate to find them a home. Forgot Kennedy (and Young) still had a contract.
5% is money, and if accululated over 5 years, which is allowed, it can be quite sizeable. I've got the numbers done...
2021 12.8M = $640K....Austin's first year
2022 13.5M = $680K
2023 15.0M = $750K
2024 15.7M = $795K
2025 17.5M = $880K
Total Saving = $3.74 M. One off.
That's a war chest Austin can use part for a first year payment of said recruit (s), enabling Austin to front load some other contracts to make space in latter years. This is what SOS doing as List Manager at Carlton. The following year we see out Williams and Saads huge contracts, Young and Fogs. They all free up another $1.5M
The current total of uncontracted players at the end of 2025 is approx $5.6M annually. Add that to the $3.74M...and that's a big warchest to contract Cerra, Hewett, Silvagni, Newman, Cincotta, and TDK on 1.1M, and leaving us with $2M to add to the $3.74M Savings.
Austin seems the quiet, unemotional type, who could be shrewd enough to manage something like this. Its not rocket science. Its management.
Pretty strange and unusual to have 14 contracts expiring in the same year, and another 13 the following year. I smell a plan.
My hunch is also a couple kids are going to make way for FS Allan and Dean and NGA Ison and Clark/Gresham.
Next year the cap goes to $18.3M, followed by $18.4 M before the next CBA for 2028 and the years ahead.
Overseeing all of this money is Cook. He's strategic, and no fool when it comes to player payments and value.
Weitering, Cerra, Curnow & McKay all contracted through at least 2029. Cripps will have a balloon on the end of his deal (2027)… it’s all been spent.
If there’s a saving anywhere, it’s losing the battle for De Koning and ‘winning’ the one for a broken Walsh.
There might’ve been a window where we’d become a player in Free Agency, but it closed with Smith. Both he & Walker are blue chip draftees whose first extension, never mind first deal, will be done while those big contracts are still on the books.
Interesting. Not sure if you've been creative with your outlook Cru. Not sure you're point overwhelms the salary cap much at all. I hope you're not right.
End of 2029 season is 4 years away after this season. Not sure what your point is re Weitering, Cerra, Curnow & McKay. Three of them have publicly stated they have taken unders 900 for the forwards, probably same, (unsure) with Weiters. Regardless, he wouldnt be much more (especially after club helped him recoup his loss of savings to a scam), and Cerra was offered a long contract, which I assume was to keep the status quo around $600K.
I assume TDK will stay at Carlton for a max 1.1M. That's an increase from 800K, ie $300K
Cripps signed a 6 year deal in 2021. In 2022, the highest paid players were Cripps (1M), McGovern (900), Martin (900) and Williams (900). Walsh was still 20yo. They were front loaded contracts, and until Harry and Charlie and Weiters signed their big contracts, Martin was paid a Million upfront so Suns couldnt match, but Crippa over the next 3 years was front loaded the most. It was well known. I have him down for a Million, knowing there's some phat in that from front ended payments in 2022, which were also happening and carried through to new contract way back in 2017. We didnt have players warranting big pay packets other than Cripps, Murphy, Gibbs was on peanuts (around 300) when he left with a year to run on his contract for the Crows because of heavy front loaded contract.
How you come up with a ballooned figure above and beyond the contracted amount for Cripps, let alone not factoring the front ended nature of his contract, I can't see it.
2021 was prior to the big contracts signed by Harry, Charlie and Weiters, let alone TDK.
I am sure Austin has his ducks lined up much better than you allude to.
Like I said Ive built a model, and tried to factor years gone by, front loading, and without front loaded contracts I can see the war chest I refer to above. If not exact, its much greater than zero which you claim.
Thanks for bouncing off me. I'm keen to look always look beyond the current year.
I know Walker comes in 2027, but he's on basic wage for 3 years, and Smith is on basic wage till end of 2027. I don't expect either to cost us an arm or leg. Maybe Smith will be paid around 600, like Walshy did after his initial 3 years.
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