Crusader wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
2025 AFL Premiers won with 2 rucks: Fort and McInerney
Lions 64 HO's vs Cats 46 HO's.
Those of you who were adamant the 2 rucks were dead, and a relic of the past have not only been proven wrong on a weekly basis since the debate started prior to the Crows game a couple years ago, yesterday's Premiers reminded everyone that the 2 rucks is not dead, not a thing of the past, has arole to play in the modern game, and led to success in the game that matters most; The Grand Final.
A reminder that we are all just punters on the side and not the gurus of the game, some think they are. The game evolves. Some things coma and go and come around again. There's horsed for courses, and there's the old mismatch that can go your way if delivery is good but can easily go against you if delivery is bad.
Who would have thought a player like Fort, who most fans had behind Pittonet as a ruckman, had 45 HO's vs Blicavs 28 HO's.
Well played Lions.

I was hoping you’d bring this one up
I thought there was a couple of things that held back the automatic tick for this game fitting into the two-ruck win category:
1. Blicavs had 28 hitouts while trying to tag Andrews at CHF.
2. Geelong had 0 rucks after half time & didn’t win a clearance until the game was over. Stanley was hopeless though.
I suspect it’s a win for the two-rucks, but it’s one where the other mob lost it just as much as the two-ruck won it.
Hats off to Darcy Fort though. That was the game of his career.
Its a discussion point, not a troll.
I like this debate and how it evolves, and will continue to evolve.
I agree with BV's take on the use of the "2 rucks" and use of the talls.
I watched the game and moves with a lot of interest. Loved it.
Also, to consider was the HO's to advantage. I think it was 8 each.
For some people the ruck role is an over valued role and believe the likes of Grigg made a mockery of the position.
Ask Cats what they did about the ruck situation before they paid a kings ranson for Owens. Ask them what they think now.
I watch teams we will be competing with carefully. Call it a SWOT analysis.
There's more to it than simply my 2 rucks vs your 1 ruck.
The players at the feet of the ruck men play such a huge role to the result.
Lets hope our boy Skull keeps improving. We have to at least nullify the oppositions ruck dtrength to give our boys on the floor an even chanve.
I’m in the two ruck camp, as long as they’re competitive. Versatility is the key.
Ruck forwards, just my opinion, usually aren’t good enough at either role.
I’ll have the old-school follower, or the bloke that drops behind play for intercepts.