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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 9:19 am 
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Hope we find a way to control Sinclair. He's torched us in recent match ups.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:01 am 
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Pies took plenty of pack marks in their forward line, we look short down there. Be good to get Boyd back. When you look at some of our ins, the cupboards starting to look a bit bare.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:35 am 
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I reckon Ross is trying to suck us into going too tall down back.
I reckon King is no chance. And Membrey is 60-40 at best.
We need to run it out of defence quickly before they have a chance to set their defence up properly.
If we can do that effectively, we should be able to beat their plan.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:23 am 
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Durdin needs to come in... he is part of the Mosquito fleet that caused mayhem to most teams last year!

If the fleet can keep up the forward pressure game with the inclusion of Martin, we will go a long way. We will make the finals :)


If not Durdin, then plz give Binns a go.... he earned it :)


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:30 am 
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I reckon we are sorted for small forwards right now. Durdin will be good but needs more development.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:31 am 
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I'd play Ed and tag Sinclair

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:34 am 
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Braithy wrote:
problem with losing gov is his kicking is irreplaceable at the back. the games he's missed this season, we're noticeably worse. expect more turnovers from whoever replaces him (kemp/ marchbank) and those fast transitions out of defence into the midfield where we run & carry into attack won't be there.

i thought we might be okay, missing walsh and cerra, bcos our backline will still stand tall, and through gov, saad, doc, acres we'd rebound fast and run hard thru the middle which the saints don't deal well with.

if we're slow, we play into the saints hands.


this has danger game all over it.


when you look at the top of the table ... no other club has as many soft tissue injuries as us. this cannot be rotten luck. this is a management problem of player's load. it's kinda alway been with us too, before russell came in.


He has his fair share of howlers too... if you look closely.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:35 am 
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This match is a test of our system.

Pure and simple.

If it holds up we win.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:47 am 
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Paddycripps wrote:
Braithy wrote:
problem with losing gov is his kicking is irreplaceable at the back. the games he's missed this season, we're noticeably worse. expect more turnovers from whoever replaces him (kemp/ marchbank) and those fast transitions out of defence into the midfield where we run & carry into attack won't be there.

i thought we might be okay, missing walsh and cerra, bcos our backline will still stand tall, and through gov, saad, doc, acres we'd rebound fast and run hard thru the middle which the saints don't deal well with.

if we're slow, we play into the saints hands.


this has danger game all over it.


when you look at the top of the table ... no other club has as many soft tissue injuries as us. this cannot be rotten luck. this is a management problem of player's load. it's kinda alway been with us too, before russell came in.


He has his fair share of howlers too... if you look closely.



not really. he's so clean by foot.

his howlers are with his hands, and fumbling it. once has a hold of the ball, he's good.


marchbank worries me, bcos he is not good. excellent positioning, fearless, and excellent man-on. but his decision making with the ball is really poor.


same as durdin, dow, lob, fisher etc ... all these fringe players with big deficiencies


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:55 am 
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Stefchook wrote:
Hope we find a way to control Sinclair. He's torched us in recent match ups.


Cottrell has been doing a good job of shutting down running defenders whilst also being an option himself


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:56 am 
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Dodo27 wrote:
Durdin needs to come in... he is part of the Mosquito fleet that caused mayhem to most teams last year!

If the fleet can keep up the forward pressure game with the inclusion of Martin, we will go a long way. We will make the finals :)


If not Durdin, then plz give Binns a go.... he earned it :)


Hasn't been selected. Sam Durdin has


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:56 am 
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sticksaftersiren87 wrote:
I'd play Ed and tag Sinclair


Cottrell and/or Hewett. Ed can't keep up anymore


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:58 am 
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Sam Durdin to come in and pick up King
Releases Weitering and Marchbank to others and helps our balance

If Durdin can stay fit he will really add to our defence


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 12:07 pm 
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Surely they aren't bringing in King. He's named on the extended bench for a reason.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 12:37 pm 
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OMG so its Sam Durdin- the recycled defender? Surely not..... don't need him


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:00 pm 
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On the injury management front, I have been a Russell-hater for some time but I have some sympathy for him here... if you look at our recent spate of injuries, it started off with a bunch of impact (knee) injuries, and the soft tissue injuries have only come since we've had a smaller pool to select from. We did manage players against West Coast, but aside from that we've not really had the luxury of rotation because we needed to win all of the last 6 to get back into finals contention, and we don't have quite enough depth players that we can trust. Would anyone here really have accepted the return of, say, Fisher, to give our midfielders a rest? Lewis Young to give Mitch a spell vs. the Pies? I just don't see where the opportunities were.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:17 pm 
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Dodo27 wrote:
OMG so its Sam Durdin- the recycled defender? Surely not..... don't need him


Disagree. If he can stay fit will be a great addition and release Weitering


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GreatEx wrote:
On the injury management front, I have been a Russell-hater for some time but I have some sympathy for him here... if you look at our recent spate of injuries, it started off with a bunch of impact (knee) injuries, and the soft tissue injuries have only come since we've had a smaller pool to select from. We did manage players against West Coast, but aside from that we've not really had the luxury of rotation because we needed to win all of the last 6 to get back into finals contention, and we don't have quite enough depth players that we can trust. Would anyone here really have accepted the return of, say, Fisher, to give our midfielders a rest? Lewis Young to give Mitch a spell vs. the Pies? I just don't see where the opportunities were.



Not great having players doing hammies at training though.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:42 pm 
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FarmerBlue wrote:
Dodo27 wrote:
OMG so its Sam Durdin- the recycled defender? Surely not..... don't need him


Disagree. If he can stay fit will be a great addition and release Weitering



I have watched him before... he looks quite Average hence why he was delisted by his first Club... I don't think he is part of our future...he is a short term benefit but then very injury prone


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:51 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Braithy wrote:
problem with losing gov is his kicking is irreplaceable at the back. the games he's missed this season, we're noticeably worse. expect more turnovers from whoever replaces him (kemp/ marchbank) and those fast transitions out of defence into the midfield where we run & carry into attack won't be there.

i thought we might be okay, missing walsh and cerra, bcos our backline will still stand tall, and through gov, saad, doc, acres we'd rebound fast and run hard thru the middle which the saints don't deal well with.

if we're slow, we play into the saints hands.


this has danger game all over it.


when you look at the top of the table ... no other club has as many soft tissue injuries as us. this cannot be rotten luck. this is a management problem of player's load. it's kinda alway been with us too, before russell came in.


Fair enough. I think its players who can't handle the loads required to have players fit to run out 4 quarters. You need the loads if you want them fit. Vossy's contested game plan requires that resilience. May the fittest men remain standing. Have to make a decision on those at the end of the season. Gov's one of those too. he's a terrible footballer when he's not fit (see his first 3 seasons).

I think 190cm Gov is overated as a KPD. Its team defence that has enabled him to keep his opponents under control. When he's isolated with a taller opponent we suffer.

Govs 'wonder' kicks are only 1 or 2 a game when he's on, and the rest of his kicks fit into the team footy everyone is playing, including Kemp.

Marchbank is a very good kick and quick. He was rusty in his first game back with decision making, with the smother and walking through the goals (terrible decision by umpire), Kemp is finding his feet .
Its not Gov I miss. Marchbank and Kemp are very good marks too.

We will be right Braithy



it really isn't the players unable to manage, it's our system, unfortunately mate.


i have a bunch of text message's here i'm sitting on that i'd love to publish here. there's nothing really stopping me... but anyway; it shows there's a level of ingrained arrogance at the club about strength programs and protocols.

for example, russell has the guys doing their conditioning on an Ultra G treadmill - non weight bearing. it gets the cardio into us, but doesn't laod the muscles up and (eventually as the season grinds on) strengthen them. it's just one of the reasons why we suffer so many soft tissues.

pies implemented pilates and yoga into their program - and look., no soft tissue injuries.


I'm sure there's players whose body types dont suit the rigours of AFL. I dont know who they are.

Arrogance of Russell you mean? He's in charge.

I'm sure the boys do weights every week if not nearly everyday of the week, but I think you are alluding to not enough, or not early enough.

I'd be astounded if they were not doing pilates and yoga after the Judd era introduced us to them. Judd did pilated 10 hours a week outside the club. If they aren't incorporating pilates and yoga in this day and age, after we spent a kings ransom to get Juddy to show us the way, then I would consider that arrogance and neglect of a well known benefit.

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