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ThePsychologist
PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:21 pm 
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Go and read my changes and you'll see I'm all for bringing in kids, I just don't see the problem picking Walker and Armfield when they're in form.

They won't be holding a kid back, they'll be adding a dimension to the team: speed.


Isn't Walker in my side? Armfield is average and isn't the future.

The next three years isn't about winning for me. It's about developemnt and buidling the next great side. To do that we need as many games into kids as possible to develop them and see if they are good enough.

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Blue juice
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Blues Clues wrote:
bmaurizio wrote:
How is that Betts , Garlett, Waite and to some extent Robinson are all doing well in other teams?
I don't read about bad attitude or disruptive influences anywhere. In fact more like valuable contribution to their new teams.
Well there're not much more Mick can shed for no returns so let's see whatt happens next.
Ciao


Without Merrett, my sister would have kicked 7 against the Lions, and she can't even kick straight. He went goalless the week before in "hot" company.

How did Garlett go last Saturday when the heat was on?

Eddie went back to SA to be closer to his sick father and because the Blues did not match Crows offer after an indifferent final year with us. Thomas was set for a good year before he went down Rd 1, let's just see how this "swap" plays out the next few years when Daisy gets back out there. It was his shoulder that went, not the "dodgy" ankle.

Move on FFS.



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Blue juice
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Blues Clues wrote:
bmaurizio wrote:
How is that Betts , Garlett, Waite and to some extent Robinson are all doing well in other teams?
I don't read about bad attitude or disruptive influences anywhere. In fact more like valuable contribution to their new teams.
Well there're not much more Mick can shed for no returns so let's see whatt happens next.
Ciao


Without Merrett, my sister would have kicked 7 against the Lions, and she can't even kick straight. He went goalless the week before in "hot" company.

How did Garlett go last Saturday when the heat was on?

Eddie went back to SA to be closer to his sick father and because the Blues did not match Crows offer after an indifferent final year with us. Thomas was set for a good year before he went down Rd 1, let's just see how this "swap" plays out the next few years when Daisy gets back out there. It was his shoulder that went, not the "dodgy" ankle.

Move on FFS.



P :clap: If they were still in the team you just know they'd be copping it from the Carlton negatron faction anyway. "No heart, flaky, bad influence, go missing in big games blah blah"
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jimmae
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ThePsychologist wrote:
jimmae wrote:
Go and read my changes and you'll see I'm all for bringing in kids, I just don't see the problem picking Walker and Armfield when they're in form.

They won't be holding a kid back, they'll be adding a dimension to the team: speed.


Isn't Walker in my side? Armfield is average and isn't the future.

The next three years isn't about winning for me. It's about developemnt and buidling the next great side. To do that we need as many games into kids as possible to develop them and see if they are good enough.

Armfield's kicking is in form and he's got 8 goals in 4 VFL pre-season games. He brings more than Whiley or Graham right now. Warnock has about 120 minutes of pre-season footy under his belt and would be a huge risk.

My changes at this point are:

Out: Jones, Tutt, Menzel, White, Carrazzo, Ellard, Smith

In: Boekhorst, Buckley, Armfield, DVR, Walker, Cripps, Byrne

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4thchicken wrote:
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Pity we didn't do better than picks 61 & 79 for Garlett.


Actually, its been - laidler, robinson, betts, garlett, waite + pick 83 for picks 61 + 79...

5 former first 22 players for a 3rd round pick and a late round pick upgrade...

Well in that case you can tack on Thomas and Dick considering you're counting all the free agency losses and gains (and even two delistings).

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emtwenty
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Jimmae your constant championing of Armfield's form is driving me up the wall.
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jimmae
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Jimmae your constant championing of Armfield's form is driving me up the wall.

We need defensive application from our small/medium forwards. He nails that, but he's also nailing I50s and goals right now.

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The function after the game will be interesting. Ill definitely will attend to get a feel for the "vibe" - especially if we get smacked (which I expect).

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jimmae wrote:
emtwenty wrote:
Jimmae your constant championing of Armfield's form is driving me up the wall.

We need defensive application from our small/medium forwards. He nails that, but he's also nailing I50s and goals right now.


It's clear he gives the ball back far too frequently via his flawed kicking action. Difficult to see him on the list after this year.

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jimmae wrote:
Go and read my changes and you'll see I'm all for bringing in kids, I just don't see the problem picking Walker and Armfield when they're in form.

They won't be holding a kid back, they'll be adding a dimension to the team: speed.

Why would you do that? Crazy talk....MC is probably thinking about taking out Simmons and replace him with Watson.


..got murdered playing too many talls in round 1... So we added more and got slaughtered...so we must need more...

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jimmae
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Bare minimum changes:
Out: White, Ellard, Menzel, Smith
In: Walker, Armfield, Cripps, Buckley

Additional changes if we're serious about improving our game style after quarter time:
Out: Jones, Tutt
In: Boekhorst, Byrne

If we've taken our heads out of the clouds and accept that some older types might need decent pre-season minutes after half the previous season out:
Out: Carrazzo
In: DVR

I think Tutt and Carrazzo will survive the chop, so I'm hoping for 5 changes, with Boekhorst sneaking in ahead of Byrne.

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emtwenty
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Goddard's 250th against Carlton the week we announce a rebuild. It's like its scripted.
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OMG... Goddard's 250th as well? The stars are aligning for us to get absolutely raped.

Complete TV, radio, internet and social media blockout for me. Phone will be off.

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Goddard use to follow the Blues as a kid. He will play his 300th at the blues. He loves us.

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Out: White. Menzel. Carazzo. Curnow. Ellard.
In: Jaksch. Cripps. Buckley. Whiley. Graham.

Walks has been out for 9mths and had one run against kids.
Whiley tagging.
Drop deadwood. Carazzo, Curnow, Ellard, etc aren't part of the rebuild.


Docherty. Jamo. Yarran.
Simmo. Hendo. Jaksch.
Bell. Gibbs. Whiley.
Tutt. Rowe. Jones.
Bucks. Casboult. Murph.
Wood. Judd. Cripps.
Smith. Everitt. Tuohy. Graham.
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Hibbo wrote:
Out: White. Menzel. Carazzo. Curnow. Ellard.
In: Jaksch. Cripps. Buckley. Whiley. Graham.

Walks has been out for 9mths and had one run against kids.
Whiley tagging.
Drop deadwood. Carazzo, Curnow, Ellard, etc aren't part of the rebuild.


Docherty. Jamo. Yarran.
Simmo. Hendo. Jaksch.
Bell. Gibbs. Whiley.
Tutt. Rowe. Jones.
Bucks. Casboult. Murph.
Wood. Judd. Cripps.
Smith. Everitt. Tuohy. Graham.


Drop all our taggers!!????

Have you lost your mind.

That means we'd have to have some sort of midfield strategy or something.

Carzy talk.

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Blueboy74
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4thchicken wrote:
jim wrote:
Pity we didn't do better than picks 61 & 79 for Garlett.


Actually, its been - laidler, robinson, betts, garlett, waite + pick 83 for picks 61 + 79...

5 former first 22 players for a 3rd round pick and a late round pick upgrade...


Actually, its been - Jacobs, Grigg, Laidler, Robinson, Betts, Garlett, Waite + Pick 83 for Picks 61 + 79.

Collins, McIness and McCarthy are all gone.

Thank God for the Hampson/Docherty swap.

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..yep, I wouldn't bring Walker in cold either..

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....but that's old news. Bring on the rebuild! :thumbsup:

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