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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 2:18 pm 
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Good to see the captain in the social pages in the Sun yesterday, photos taken from the day after getting smashed with a big smile on his face.

Typical Murphy.

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 2:29 pm 
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Good to see the captain in the social pages in the Sun yesterday, photos taken from the day after getting smashed with a big smile on his face.

Typical Murphy.


The players do have lives outside football.

Imagine a family or partner living with a footballer who only smiles when they win a game on the week end and is a total negative depressive when they lose?

Do you sacrifice everything you have in your inner soul for your employer?

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 2:36 pm 
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Great. Go out, do what you need to do. That's his business. His personal life, he's entitled to it.

For him to agree to pose for a photo with his Mrs on the red carpet, however, and he does this far too often for it to be a lapse in judgment, is just stupid, and shows how little he "gets" how he portrays and conveys himself as a leader. Did a similar thing after the Melbourne game - posing for selfies with Dave Hughes at the Comedy Festival on Twitter.

Why are we supposed to care about the losses, or the club, when clearly Murph's over as soon as the final siren goes? Why should the rest of the team care when the skipper doesn't? Compare that to the Andrew Mackie/Tom Harley stories in recent years.

And before anyone asks - only other player from Carlton in attendance was Curnow (injured and essentially Buttifant's son in law), and rather than be photographed, Dane Swan received a footnote acknowledging his attendance, rather than posing for red carpet pics.

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 3:54 pm 
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Drewgirl wrote:
Pure laziness is our problem. No pressure on the opposition, given then time to steady and pin point the ball to whoever they want.

We just jog on the spot.

Also this flooding crap, when we get the ball in the backline, we look up and there is no one to kick too. Whos fault is this? Players or Coach.

We played like that for 3 quarters then surprise surprise released the shackles in the last and kicked a few.

I dont get it really....


Pies little fellas ran and 3's and 4's giving off the hot potatoe to the next in prgression. They are prepared to run 100% hard and fast and know they've got support either side. Our blokes werent prepared to run as hard and fast as the pies. That's my take. I dont know if its lazy or just the fact they cant run fast or for fast for the distance needed to compete at this level.

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 5:50 pm 
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we are to slow simple so we recruit a guy called cripps (lucky his tall).MM must adopt the coll,geel,port,process so in prseason start training for this.

Lucky his tall what?

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 6:18 pm 
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The Rhino wrote:
Great. Go out, do what you need to do. That's his business. His personal life, he's entitled to it.

For him to agree to pose for a photo with his Mrs on the red carpet, however, and he does this far too often for it to be a lapse in judgment, is just stupid, and shows how little he "gets" how he portrays and conveys himself as a leader. Did a similar thing after the Melbourne game - posing for selfies with Dave Hughes at the Comedy Festival on Twitter.

Why are we supposed to care about the losses, or the club, when clearly Murph's over as soon as the final siren goes? Why should the rest of the team care when the skipper doesn't? Compare that to the Andrew Mackie/Tom Harley stories in recent years.

And before anyone asks - only other player from Carlton in attendance was Curnow (injured and essentially Buttifant's son in law), and rather than be photographed, Dane Swan received a footnote acknowledging his attendance, rather than posing for red carpet pics.


I dont get it Rhino

Are you saying that Murph's (or any other player's) behaviour in their private time should depend on whether the team played well or won on the weekend?

Say we knocked oevr the Pies by 2 points last Friday night, and Murphy did exactly the same thing. You would still object?

Interesting set of variable standards you have there Rhino.

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 6:33 pm 
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The Rhino wrote:
Great. Go out, do what you need to do. That's his business. His personal life, he's entitled to it.

For him to agree to pose for a photo with his Mrs on the red carpet, however, and he does this far too often for it to be a lapse in judgment, is just stupid, and shows how little he "gets" how he portrays and conveys himself as a leader. Did a similar thing after the Melbourne game - posing for selfies with Dave Hughes at the Comedy Festival on Twitter.

Why are we supposed to care about the losses, or the club, when clearly Murph's over as soon as the final siren goes? Why should the rest of the team care when the skipper doesn't? Compare that to the Andrew Mackie/Tom Harley stories in recent years.

And before anyone asks - only other player from Carlton in attendance was Curnow (injured and essentially Buttifant's son in law), and rather than be photographed, Dane Swan received a footnote acknowledging his attendance, rather than posing for red carpet pics.


I dont get it Rhino

Are you saying that Murph's (or any other player's) behaviour in their private time should depend on whether the team played well or won on the weekend?

Say we knocked oevr the Pies by 2 points last Friday night, and Murphy did exactly the same thing. You would still object?

Interesting set of variable standards you have there Rhino.


The behavior is largely irrelevant. Publicizing it is.

My issue is that he constantly doesn't get how his actions will be construed, not just by the public and the media, but his teammates as well. If he goes out, he goes out. Why pose for a picture on the red carpet for the Herald Sun though? Dane Swan didn't. Or even why didn't the club request that the paper not publish it?

The leader of the team shouldn't be giving off the image that a heavy loss to the arch rivals doesn't mean anything. It only enhances the perceptions that we're a pack of pretenders/individuals/not interested in team success, and gives further reason to potential/disenchanted members not to sign up, because really, why give a shit about losing to Melbourne, if the skipper doesn't?

There's a bit of theatre to it admittedly, that they should be "selling" the loss and how much it's hurt them to some degree. Doubt you'd ever see the Geelong or the Hawthorn boys all over the social pages the night after getting smashed by either side. Sure they probably go out, but I doubt they publicize it.

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 6:34 pm 
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The Rhino wrote:
Great. Go out, do what you need to do. That's his business. His personal life, he's entitled to it.

For him to agree to pose for a photo with his Mrs on the red carpet, however, and he does this far too often for it to be a lapse in judgment, is just stupid, and shows how little he "gets" how he portrays and conveys himself as a leader. Did a similar thing after the Melbourne game - posing for selfies with Dave Hughes at the Comedy Festival on Twitter.

Why are we supposed to care about the losses, or the club, when clearly Murph's over as soon as the final siren goes? Why should the rest of the team care when the skipper doesn't? Compare that to the Andrew Mackie/Tom Harley stories in recent years.

And before anyone asks - only other player from Carlton in attendance was Curnow (injured and essentially Buttifant's son in law), and rather than be photographed, Dane Swan received a footnote acknowledging his attendance, rather than posing for red carpet pics.



give me a spell.

what players do in their spare time, is exactly that ... their spare time ... they can paint model trains or stand on a red carpet for all I care ... its their private lives ...

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 6:36 pm 
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Are the model train enthusiasts advertising what they do in their spare time in the paper? Not very private if its in the most circulated paper in the country.

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 7:09 pm 
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if youre not ging to be a winner on the footy field.. u better look like a winner on the celebrity pages..
its very important you have an image ... if you cant tackle and you shirk physical contact you can smile at celebrity dos.

im with marc on this one....

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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 3:09 pm 
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At least cripps has the height adv over players that he will be competing against especially if devlops into a midd. ok moshe25 that what i meant.


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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 4:51 pm 
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pew1 wrote:
At least cripps has the height adv over players that he will be competing against especially if devlops into a midd. ok moshe25 that what i meant.


And what if he grows to 240cm? Then what?

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The Rhino wrote:
pew1 wrote:
At least cripps has the height adv over players that he will be competing against especially if devlops into a midd. ok moshe25 that what i meant.


And what if he grows to 240cm? Then what?


I am hoping that he is at least 240cm tall by round 19 and his weight hovers around the 175kg mark.

We need to make a physical statement in the finals this year

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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 7:14 pm 
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If he's not running out wearing the carlton banner as a jersey by round 19, I'm prepared to go on a limb and declare him surplus to needs and a royal bust.


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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 7:34 pm 
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thats funny if he his 240cm will win the ruck but pendles beamsy swannie will still win the centre clearences.


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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 10:01 pm 
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The Rhino wrote:
pew1 wrote:
At least cripps has the height adv over players that he will be competing against especially if devlops into a midd. ok moshe25 that what i meant.


And what if he grows to 240cm? Then what?


Trade him to the NBA


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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 1:44 am 
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http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/man-bashed-after-mcg-clash-20140509-zr78u.html

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Police are hunting three AFL football fans who attacked and seriously injured a schoolteacher after a match at the MCG while bystanders filmed the bashing on their phones.

Now the problem is that if they're found they'll get charged with affray, fined and given suspended sentence, or even let off.

I'd give them 5 years, and do that a few times, and that would stop it pretty quickly I reckon.

Society is a bit like Carlton. Shoulda dropped Fev to the reserves for 15 weeks in the early 2000s. Might've still had a champ, but one with some discipline.

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More pearls of wisdom from Lloyd.
According to his scenario, Carlton get pick 4 for losing Gibbs and they have 600k spare cash to chase a free agent.
Unless I'm mistaken, the Gibbs compensation would be cancelled out by acquiring a free agent.

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