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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2014 11:04 pm 
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if i read one of your posts dane i read them all

nothing is wrong all is good

look if the club is in some kind of holding pattern .. till this guy jumps on and revolutionises things.. the question needs to be asked.. why the holding pattern???

you see dane... sometimes when you wake up from your hypnotic stupor .. you can begin to think.

you actually have nothing to offer except some kind of hypnotic euphoric state .....

its pretty hard to know people can go through life unable to think for themselves or ask questions but to blindly follow

even your question to me is because youre gibbing the responsibility of showing anything solid aout anything at all

we have had a million shifts since ive known u here... all of them point to where were at now.. all the twists and turns and yet.. youve supported every single one of them

u supported every loser president
every loser board member
every loser coach
every loser recruiting decision
every delisted player
every questionable stance the club has made
sometimes these things have been fighting against each other.. and yet you have always found a way to pop up and support them all.

there must be a psychological name for that.,.... your therapist will know the answer.. ask him....

whatever it is... surely you can see the weirdness in it???

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 9:48 am 
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I attended all three games at the G on the weekend, and another thing that stuck out to me was the lack of 'stuff' going on out on the ground before the bounce for our home game compared to the other home teams (Hawthorn/Geelong). By this I mean engagement of supporters/members at the ground through different pre-game activities. With the exception of the poor guy kicking a football for the first time in front of 50,000+ people, there didn't seem to be anything else happening that targeted supporters at the ground. Even down to using James Sherry as MC, who also does Richmond's games there.

It was supposed to be a celebration of 150 years of the CFC, but except for some highlights of past exploits on the big screen, what else was there?? Where was the motorcade of Carlton legends (every Richmond home game includes a past legend coming out with their family to "kick the first goal")? Where were the 16 Cups? Hell, Collingwood's banner was still twice the size of ours and they were the freaking away team. Can you imagine what Eddie would've conjured if the occasion was there's?

It's all these little things that continue to paint CFC as a bland, vanilla organisation, that either don't know what they're doing, or don't care.

Mark, these are the sorts of things you need to fix, and Heaven help you.

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 10:05 am 
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Donstuie wrote:

It's all these little things that continue to paint CFC as a bland, vanilla organisation, that either don't know what they're doing, or don't care.




That's it in a nutshell. The disconnect with fans is not about the on-field performances as much as it is about our greedy, bloated, big wigs mailing it in with the bare minimum stuff and asking for maximum dollars (our hard working dollars) in return.

Our front office are bereft of ideas, have lost their inspiration and are all about themselves and their bank balances.

A top-to-bottom clean out is necessary. Though, we will never get that. Why the hell do we have to wait until June for Sticks to stop mailing it in, and for Logicaljuice to start his --more of the same -- tenure? More self driven convenience from the club?


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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 10:12 am 
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weve decided things will change.. the club needs to change... holding pattern till we make them.

it just reeks off no contingency.. no planning... and probably some shuffling off the deckchairs on the titanic

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 10:21 am 
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Synbad wrote:
weve decided things will change.. the club needs to change... holding pattern till we make them.

it just reeks off no contingency.. no planning... and probably some shuffling off the deckchairs on the titanic



Will we see wholesale, top-to-bottom changes, or just the usual posturing from our el presidente & board?


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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 12:34 pm 
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Donstuie wrote:
I attended all three games at the G on the weekend, and another thing that stuck out to me was the lack of 'stuff' going on out on the ground before the bounce for our home game compared to the other home teams (Hawthorn/Geelong). By this I mean engagement of supporters/members at the ground through different pre-game activities. With the exception of the poor guy kicking a football for the first time in front of 50,000+ people, there didn't seem to be anything else happening that targeted supporters at the ground. Even down to using James Sherry as MC, who also does Richmond's games there.

It was supposed to be a celebration of 150 years of the CFC, but except for some highlights of past exploits on the big screen, what else was there?? Where was the motorcade of Carlton legends (every Richmond home game includes a past legend coming out with their family to "kick the first goal")? Where were the 16 Cups? Hell, Collingwood's banner was still twice the size of ours and they were the freaking away team. Can you imagine what Eddie would've conjured if the occasion was there's?

It's all these little things that continue to paint CFC as a bland, vanilla organisation, that either don't know what they're doing, or don't care.

Mark, these are the sorts of things you need to fix, and Heaven help you.


These issues are the CEO's responsibility....


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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 1:03 pm 
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Mosquito Fleet wrote:
Donstuie wrote:
I attended all three games at the G on the weekend, and another thing that stuck out to me was the lack of 'stuff' going on out on the ground before the bounce for our home game compared to the other home teams (Hawthorn/Geelong). By this I mean engagement of supporters/members at the ground through different pre-game activities. With the exception of the poor guy kicking a football for the first time in front of 50,000+ people, there didn't seem to be anything else happening that targeted supporters at the ground. Even down to using James Sherry as MC, who also does Richmond's games there.

It was supposed to be a celebration of 150 years of the CFC, but except for some highlights of past exploits on the big screen, what else was there?? Where was the motorcade of Carlton legends (every Richmond home game includes a past legend coming out with their family to "kick the first goal")? Where were the 16 Cups? Hell, Collingwood's banner was still twice the size of ours and they were the freaking away team. Can you imagine what Eddie would've conjured if the occasion was there's?

It's all these little things that continue to paint CFC as a bland, vanilla organisation, that either don't know what they're doing, or don't care.

Mark, these are the sorts of things you need to fix, and Heaven help you.


These issues are the CEO's responsibility....


The CEO is supposed to make decisions and oversee the managerial structures that will enable the visions of the President and the board's directors to be fullfilled.

The question is "what are the visions of this board of directors"?

Does anybody in the public know?

Does the Think Tank know?

Certainly the members are in the dark, even with the recently announced new president who will take over soon

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 3:52 pm 
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Donstuie wrote:
I attended all three games at the G on the weekend, and another thing that stuck out to me was the lack of 'stuff' going on out on the ground before the bounce for our home game compared to the other home teams (Hawthorn/Geelong). By this I mean engagement of supporters/members at the ground through different pre-game activities. With the exception of the poor guy kicking a football for the first time in front of 50,000+ people, there didn't seem to be anything else happening that targeted supporters at the ground. Even down to using James Sherry as MC, who also does Richmond's games there.

It was supposed to be a celebration of 150 years of the CFC, but except for some highlights of past exploits on the big screen, what else was there?? Where was the motorcade of Carlton legends (every Richmond home game includes a past legend coming out with their family to "kick the first goal")? Where were the 16 Cups? Hell, Collingwood's banner was still twice the size of ours and they were the freaking away team. Can you imagine what Eddie would've conjured if the occasion was there's?

It's all these little things that continue to paint CFC as a bland, vanilla organisation, that either don't know what they're doing, or don't care.

Mark, these are the sorts of things you need to fix, and Heaven help you.


:clap: :clap: :clap:

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 7:43 pm 
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Donstuie wrote:
I attended all three games at the G on the weekend, and another thing that stuck out to me was the lack of 'stuff' going on out on the ground before the bounce for our home game compared to the other home teams (Hawthorn/Geelong). By this I mean engagement of supporters/members at the ground through different pre-game activities. With the exception of the poor guy kicking a football for the first time in front of 50,000+ people, there didn't seem to be anything else happening that targeted supporters at the ground. Even down to using James Sherry as MC, who also does Richmond's games there.

It was supposed to be a celebration of 150 years of the CFC, but except for some highlights of past exploits on the big screen, what else was there?? Where was the motorcade of Carlton legends (every Richmond home game includes a past legend coming out with their family to "kick the first goal")? Where were the 16 Cups? Hell, Collingwood's banner was still twice the size of ours and they were the freaking away team. Can you imagine what Eddie would've conjured if the occasion was there's?

It's all these little things that continue to paint CFC as a bland, vanilla organisation, that either don't know what they're doing, or don't care.

Mark, these are the sorts of things you need to fix, and Heaven help you.



Jesus H Christ, Don - don't you get it?? We're having a dinner.... A DINNER!!!!! Who else has one of those, I ask you.


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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 7:54 pm 
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Kaptain Kouta wrote:
Donstuie wrote:
I attended all three games at the G on the weekend, and another thing that stuck out to me was the lack of 'stuff' going on out on the ground before the bounce for our home game compared to the other home teams (Hawthorn/Geelong). By this I mean engagement of supporters/members at the ground through different pre-game activities. With the exception of the poor guy kicking a football for the first time in front of 50,000+ people, there didn't seem to be anything else happening that targeted supporters at the ground. Even down to using James Sherry as MC, who also does Richmond's games there.

It was supposed to be a celebration of 150 years of the CFC, but except for some highlights of past exploits on the big screen, what else was there?? Where was the motorcade of Carlton legends (every Richmond home game includes a past legend coming out with their family to "kick the first goal")? Where were the 16 Cups? Hell, Collingwood's banner was still twice the size of ours and they were the freaking away team. Can you imagine what Eddie would've conjured if the occasion was there's?

It's all these little things that continue to paint CFC as a bland, vanilla organisation, that either don't know what they're doing, or don't care.

Mark, these are the sorts of things you need to fix, and Heaven help you.


:clap: :clap: :clap:



We've still got a woody from spoiling Collingwood's 100th birthday game at the MCG back in 1992.

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 7:57 am 
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Herald Sun reporting that Ryan Trainor will resign at the end of the month ....... not happy.


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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 8:17 am 
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DR SHERRIN will be able to maybe fill us in more......

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 8:22 am 
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woof wrote:
Herald Sun reporting that Ryan Trainor will resign at the end of the month ....... not happy.


Smart man. Finally figured out he's pushing shit up hill.


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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 8:52 am 
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Synbad wrote:
DR SHERRIN will be able to maybe fill us in more......


Later...


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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 8:56 am 
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Donstuie wrote:
I attended all three games at the G on the weekend, and another thing that stuck out to me was the lack of 'stuff' going on out on the ground before the bounce for our home game compared to the other home teams (Hawthorn/Geelong). By this I mean engagement of supporters/members at the ground through different pre-game activities. With the exception of the poor guy kicking a football for the first time in front of 50,000+ people, there didn't seem to be anything else happening that targeted supporters at the ground. Even down to using James Sherry as MC, who also does Richmond's games there.

It was supposed to be a celebration of 150 years of the CFC, but except for some highlights of past exploits on the big screen, what else was there?? Where was the motorcade of Carlton legends (every Richmond home game includes a past legend coming out with their family to "kick the first goal")? Where were the 16 Cups? Hell, Collingwood's banner was still twice the size of ours and they were the freaking away team. Can you imagine what Eddie would've conjured if the occasion was there's?

It's all these little things that continue to paint CFC as a bland, vanilla organisation, that either don't know what they're doing, or don't care.

Mark, these are the sorts of things you need to fix, and Heaven help you.


We have Captain Carlton @#$%&! the rest!

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 8:57 am 
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Donstuie wrote:
I attended all three games at the G on the weekend, and another thing that stuck out to me was the lack of 'stuff' going on out on the ground before the bounce for our home game compared to the other home teams (Hawthorn/Geelong). By this I mean engagement of supporters/members at the ground through different pre-game activities. With the exception of the poor guy kicking a football for the first time in front of 50,000+ people, there didn't seem to be anything else happening that targeted supporters at the ground. Even down to using James Sherry as MC, who also does Richmond's games there.

It was supposed to be a celebration of 150 years of the CFC, but except for some highlights of past exploits on the big screen, what else was there?? Where was the motorcade of Carlton legends (every Richmond home game includes a past legend coming out with their family to "kick the first goal")? Where were the 16 Cups? Hell, Collingwood's banner was still twice the size of ours and they were the freaking away team. Can you imagine what Eddie would've conjured if the occasion was there's?

It's all these little things that continue to paint CFC as a bland, vanilla organisation, that either don't know what they're doing, or don't care.

Mark, these are the sorts of things you need to fix, and Heaven help you.


I've been saying this for a while.

the club has not recovered since leaving Princess Park. We gave up more than our home games when we left Princess Park to play at Etihad ... we gave up our club, the passion, it history ... and we are yet to re-create something that gets ven close to that. There needs to be permanent room or something where it is a sign that goes up and goes down depending on how plays that day .. Any negotiations that are happening with the MCG should involve a real social club .... no the corporate chat area we currently have ...

thinking about it, this club really has fallen away in a massive way, and I wish the prez all the best. He has more to do than he realised.

and I give you a tip, don't create something that relies on the fans, who pay a truck load to watch the blues, to then have to dip further into their pockets .... I pay close to $800 a year to watch the blues, and really, im struggling to think for a reason why I am ...

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 9:54 am 
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ScottSaunders wrote:
Donstuie wrote:
I attended all three games at the G on the weekend, and another thing that stuck out to me was the lack of 'stuff' going on out on the ground before the bounce for our home game compared to the other home teams (Hawthorn/Geelong). By this I mean engagement of supporters/members at the ground through different pre-game activities. With the exception of the poor guy kicking a football for the first time in front of 50,000+ people, there didn't seem to be anything else happening that targeted supporters at the ground. Even down to using James Sherry as MC, who also does Richmond's games there.

It was supposed to be a celebration of 150 years of the CFC, but except for some highlights of past exploits on the big screen, what else was there?? Where was the motorcade of Carlton legends (every Richmond home game includes a past legend coming out with their family to "kick the first goal")? Where were the 16 Cups? Hell, Collingwood's banner was still twice the size of ours and they were the freaking away team. Can you imagine what Eddie would've conjured if the occasion was there's?

It's all these little things that continue to paint CFC as a bland, vanilla organisation, that either don't know what they're doing, or don't care.

Mark, these are the sorts of things you need to fix, and Heaven help you.


I've been saying this for a while.

the club has not recovered since leaving Princess Park. We gave up more than our home games when we left Princess Park to play at Etihad ... we gave up our club, the passion, it history ... and we are yet to re-create something that gets ven close to that. There needs to be permanent room or something where it is a sign that goes up and goes down depending on how plays that day .. Any negotiations that are happening with the MCG should involve a real social club .... no the corporate chat area we currently have ...

thinking about it, this club really has fallen away in a massive way, and I wish the prez all the best. He has more to do than he realised.

and I give you a tip, don't create something that relies on the fans, who pay a truck load to watch the blues, to then have to dip further into their pockets .... I pay close to $800 a year to watch the blues, and really, im struggling to think for a reason why I am ...


Where is this Princess Park of which you speak? :razz:

Staying at Princes Park has less than nothing to do with the moribund state of the mentality at board level.

There is no reason whatsoever that a bright vibrant engaged club can't be based at PP but play games at the MCG, Docklands, or wherever.

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 10:22 am 
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With the exception of the poor guy kicking a football for the first time in front of 50,000+ people


bit harsh on Daisy, I thought...he just looked like he'd never kicked a football before...


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Where is this Princess Park of which you speak? :razz:

Staying at Princes Park has less than nothing to do with the moribund state of the mentality at board level.

There is no reason whatsoever that a bright vibrant engaged club can't be based at PP but play games at the MCG, Docklands, or wherever.


sorry, perhaps you misunderstood what my intentions were ...

I agree with you, but for that to happen they have to re-create or give something of a similar nature for the fans to get around the club, enjoy the club etc.. which we had at PP ... the club hasn't done anything to replicate that, and if anything they have gone backwards in regards that aspect ...

there is no social club, there is no fan connection ... in every aspect of the club they are living off past greatness ... including the fans and their engagement ... the club is in a massive hole, for me, it feels like I am a consumer not a member, my interaction comes at a cost to me financially with regard to everything that involves the club .. buy this, buy that, pay this, pay that, $200 raffles etc.. $400 jumpers .... $800 memberships .... and for what ... a club that is going backwards, a club that appears to have very little passion for the club and next to know recongintion of fans accept lip service ...

#imablueconsumer

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 11:16 am 
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Too right Scott.
We met over this move .. and we crossed swords. Met you ripping bloke....

but...

the club has taken away over the years and given precious little back to the grass roots.
The corporates seem to be given more and more.. whilst the rank and file supporter would be member less an less.
This club has no sense of context about what a club actually is.....

You cant take away social clubs/ suburban grounds/ training watching etc and replace that with $300 tickets to bithdays and $50 raffle tickets and not wonder why youre shrinking as a club.
you need to make all people feel important....
Whislt they have been working towards a premium brand .. theyre not actually a premium brand.
They wanted to create a club that feel premium... but it looks tatty

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