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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:30 am 
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For me.. Warnock was the most influential man on the ground.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:37 am 
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What is it with Curnow and our doctors?
I remember 2-3 years ago against St Kilda, he broke his collarbone and they sent him out to continue playing even though he couldnt lift his arm.
Now he breaks his leg and they send him back on the field.

Maybe we should get an actual doctor. I don't think this medical student experiment is working.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:47 am 
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buzzaaaah wrote:
What is it with Curnow and our doctors?
I remember 2-3 years ago against St Kilda, he broke his collarbone and they sent him out to continue playing even though he couldnt lift his arm.
Now he breaks his leg and they send him back on the field.

Maybe we should get an actual doctor. I don't think this medical student experiment is working.


Or maybe Curnow says he wants to go back on?


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:54 am 
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Maybe the doctor can say you have a broken leg, you can't go on

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:01 pm 
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buzzaaaah wrote:
What is it with Curnow and our doctors?
I remember 2-3 years ago against St Kilda, he broke his collarbone and they sent him out to continue playing even though he couldnt lift his arm.
Now he breaks his leg and they send him back on the field.

Maybe we should get an actual doctor. I don't think this medical student experiment is working.


We are a club that has elite untouchables and expendables.

Lords that sleep on beds of feathers and are wrapped in the cotton fluff of Nimrod, and Scum that are kept in cold plastic bags and sleep on hard wooden floors lined with the thorns of Hades.

Curnow is expendable.

We are an immoral and ethically vicious club.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:37 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Yes, especially when they don't tell you what you want to hear. :grin:

You should pass that thought on to all the AFL, VFL, TAC, SANFL, WAFL etc coaches.
For some strange reason they all use them during games to illustrate to the players exactly what's happening.
Apparently they are a reflection of what actually occurred.

Perhaps they should disregard them and have a "vibe' stat or a TC opinion stat. :lol:

Is this in reply to me ?

If so I'm not sure what the condescending anger is about when I said stats are helpful ...?


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:05 pm 
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buzzaaaah wrote:
What is it with Curnow and our doctors?
I remember 2-3 years ago against St Kilda, he broke his collarbone and they sent him out to continue playing even though he couldnt lift his arm.
Now he breaks his leg and they send him back on the field.

Maybe we should get an actual doctor. I don't think this medical student experiment is working.



Did you watch the game?

Curnow hits the goal post, gets up and tries to stretch out his leg and run. He continues to do this until he can't put weight on his leg -- about 4-5 minutes after the collision.

The doctors couldn't tell him he had a broken leg, because curnow thought he was right to play and stayed on the park.

Maybe a softer player would have taken himself straight off? But it has nothing to do with our Dr's or the club.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:19 pm 
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I think he went off, then came back on Braithy.
I have no doubt he said it was only a flesh wound though. :razz:
Poor bugger. I hope he's back in the team soon as it's mended.
He busts a gut for the team. great 'tude.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:03 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
buzzaaaah wrote:
What is it with Curnow and our doctors?
I remember 2-3 years ago against St Kilda, he broke his collarbone and they sent him out to continue playing even though he couldnt lift his arm.
Now he breaks his leg and they send him back on the field.

Maybe we should get an actual doctor. I don't think this medical student experiment is working.



Did you watch the game?

Curnow hits the goal post, gets up and tries to stretch out his leg and run. He continues to do this until he can't put weight on his leg -- about 4-5 minutes after the collision.

The doctors couldn't tell him he had a broken leg, because curnow thought he was right to play and stayed on the park.

Maybe a softer player would have taken himself straight off? But it has nothing to do with our Dr's or the club.


I missed most of the game seeing it was easter but I did see Curnow run off the ground and get assessed. You must have missed it going for a beer or pie.
I am sure these things happen to all clubs at some stage but at our club it is too much of a regular occrence to be put down as just "one of those things"

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:05 pm 
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Rexy wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Yes, especially when they don't tell you what you want to hear. :grin:

You should pass that thought on to all the AFL, VFL, TAC, SANFL, WAFL etc coaches.
For some strange reason they all use them during games to illustrate to the players exactly what's happening.
Apparently they are a reflection of what actually occurred.

Perhaps they should disregard them and have a "vibe' stat or a TC opinion stat. :lol:

Is this in reply to me ?

If so I'm not sure what the condescending anger is about when I said stats are helpful ...?


No anger Rexy.
I laugh that many here disregard stats when they are a true reflection of the game. Yet they're happy to slag the players off from a observation which is quite often wrong.
It was a general comment, not having a go at you. :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:35 pm 
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To prove I am not a total prick all the time
A terrific win against a reasonable side in a terrific game
Henderson gun
Gibbs finally showed some grunt
Bell shouldnt have been dropped
Walker showed a lot of leadership when it mattered in the last quarter
Simpson and Scotland were terrific again. As I said in my long post about the players Scotland should play forward. Hope MM sticks to this plan
Murphy played well
Atleast Warnock cut down Minson's influence. Still overrated IMO
Curnow would be winning our BAnd F
Waite better game
Thomas better in defence not worth his salary though
Carrazzo getting better every week


Negatives Curnow and Bell are huge losses
The gap in intensity is too great. Means nothing if we dont come to play against the Wet Toast
Lucas is still ordinary despite some cameos in the last
Casboult doesnt do enough
Rowe not up to it

Carlton is a dumb club. Playing Judd even as the sub was stupid
Even dumber if he doesnt come back through the twos for two weeks.
At 30 no matter how good they are or have been the game is too fast for old blokes to go directly into the field of battle
And with Bell and Curnow out Judd's exclusion is even more important.


Stewart Crameri
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:49 pm 
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why didn't we go for crameri?
handy player.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:53 pm 
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Not being eligible for a few years probably had a bit to do with it.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:00 pm 
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bluegirl72 wrote:
why didn't we go for crameri?
handy player.


It was the relationship with McCarthy @ WBD that was pulling him across along with the superior $$ on offer. It was either stay @ Essendon* or off to WBD.
Or as Heavs said, maybe some time on the sidelines as the other option.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:26 pm 
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Liam Jones very lucky not to get suspended for his bump on Murphy. According to the AFL website the MRP decided that there was significant body and high contact. However after receiving a medical report from the WESTERN BULLDOGS the force was below that required to constitute a reportable offence.
Lucky Jones didnt hurt himself, Murphy will probably get charged for staging.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:37 pm 
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Went to the game expecting us to get flogged, to say I enjoyed the match would be an understatement.

I've been a critic of Warnock, time to even up, he had a huge game. Absolutely belted Minson, especially in the first half. It wasn't just that he was getting his hand to the ball first, he hit it to advantage time and time again. Carlton looked a different team when he was resting. Casboult tries and he throws his weight around, but he's no ruckman. We need to persevere with him up forward, he looks down on confidence, needs time in the seniors to find his way.

Henderson, what a player! If we had three like him we'd win the flag. He really looks like the heart and soul of the team out on the ground, geeing up players, telling 'em where to position themselves. Should be captain?

I couldn't believe Judd being substitute, either he was fit enough to be in the starting line up or he shouldn't have played, a farce.

Hopefully onward and upward from here, we were lucky the Scraggers don't have a power forward, and what a difference accurate kicking makes.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:32 pm 
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Great article;

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2014-0 ... leadership

Particularly like this statement;

“Having the three talls forward of the ball possibly gave us a bit more confidence to play on and have a target to kick to, as opposed to having another resting mid there,” Carrazzo said.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:32 pm 
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Dominator7 wrote:
Its too simplistic to say we played a ratten style of football. Did we lay 88 tackles and play hard physical football in ratten style footy? I get that the play on fast football reminds people of ratten style football, but dont forget ratten also tried unsucessfully to develop plan b football too. My point, comparisons to ratten game plan are not really accurate.


We did actually - it was stated a page or so back that the club record for tackles/game is 90 - achieved twice in 2011 (ie under ratten). The team has always been capable of hunting the ball/opposition when on - its the consistency of effort that varies wildly.

For mine, not fussed about who owns a particular game style - It was just very pleasing to see that we finally played a game style that suited our personnel AND that we avoided slow/stop start footy along the boundary. I can few instances where we kicked it out to the boundary and then the safe option down the line to a contest against the dogs. Was a massive change from previous weeks - no question about it.

zibe defebcem stop/start + kicking to contests along the boundary out -> one on one defence, hard running where players make space and corridor footy in please.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:59 pm 
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My favourite moments:

- Guts - White absolutely GIVING it to Crameri after he missed that easy shot in the last quarter. They'd been duelling all day, and Crameri was acting very Essendon**-esque & smug, acting like he'd won the grand final off his boot every time something went his way. What a juiced-up turd.
Fair to say White isn't my favourite player on the list, but he doesn't take crap from opposition forwards and he battles hard. Well done

- Glory - Bell and someone else (I forget who) lying on the ground and high-fiving wearily after the final siren. Great gut-busting team game all round.

- Commitment - Curnow coming back on the ground and giving it his all despite being in a mountain of pain. Inspirational game. Hopefully he has finally shut up the knockers on this site. Taggers aren't necessarily expected to be elite disposers - that's probably why he got molded into a tagger. He's one of the better ones in the comp right now. hope he comes back close to 100% before the end of the year.


Not the club's greatest win in the scheme of things,
but bloody hell it was important.

Go Blues :fight:


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:13 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
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For me.. Warnock was the most influential man on the ground.


+1

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