Are those board members up for re-election later this year and going off on a tangent, what I would like to know is whether proxy votes count at the AGM. There would be a lot of disaffected CFC members out there who for one reason or another cannot attend.

Now that would give the incumbents something to think about.

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If i had a group of any kind - that i founded - the last place i would post is on this forum of malcontents. This wasnt a club initiative, as far as Im aware isnt financially supported by the club, even if its supported by the club. They have a think tank for ideas, im all for ideas that could help the club. Although they may want to be emerging leaders of the club, but they still have to be elected by the general membership. So riddle me this, what actual harm can they possibly do?

I have no intention of joining YCP even though i all the criteria for applying, but I see nothing fundamentally wrong with the group. Nor do I see anything wrong with the founders still being on the board of an organisation in its relative infancy.

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I want to join Women of Carlton too but I can't because I am a bloke. We should not have restrictions. I am sure Carlton are the ONLY team that have these restricted groups

I am not a YCP member however I am considering joining. I am a young businessmen myself and would love to be part of a group that shares my love for the blues and where I can also network with other young passionate business people or entrepreneurs. Who knows, my business might benefit from the networking and I might be able to contribute more to the club - win win???

There has been nothing mentioned in this thread that has convinced me that this is a bad idea for ME or the club!

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It is not as bad as you are lead to believe.......it is %$#^& worse!!!

yeah its a ripper idea..... along with all the other ripper ideas about the club

so tell me....

whats the point of this group.. and what are their initiatives 6 months in....???

of course youre free to join .... and if you believe its great for you personally.. u should

and no TC isnt malcontent.. the whole 800,000 community base is.

TC is just a reflection of that... unless u wanna show me somewhere were Carlton people are content???

love ur tv work here.... btw...

everything should be spotlighted and debated....
nothing should be exempt...

no free tickets till the club is in a good position again... (if ever)...

i know u dont agree... and we should always praise everything the club does without highlighting its weaknesses..

youve said so in the past... were too negative.....!!!

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Create a graph of this club, with pretty much every indicator of health and success you can think of on the vertical axis, over the last 20 years, and your graph will resemble a black run at a high altitude ski resort.

The club has been leading itself towards joining the ranks of Melbourne for two decades, and some people think that responding to that reality is being pessimistic and negative?

Seriously, in everyday life I'm a pretty optimistic person. And in business life I'm extremely positive. But I'm not an idiot, and I know haplessness and hopelessness when I see it.

This thread isn't really about the YCP. It's about a club that DESPERATELY needs to adopt a more inclusive model, and absolutely refusing to do so. And the YCP is merely symptomatic of the broader issue.

Of course you can join the YCP and do some networking with other people who want to make and use contacts to further their careers. There are plenty of groups out there like that. The problem isn't with the group, per se.

Some may be frustrated that every second thread gets 'turned into' a club-bashing exercise. But when the very fabric of the club is hopelessly bereft of genuine leadership, sound modern business principles, inspiration or any kind of collective intelligence… it's impossible to see it otherwise.

We used to laugh at St Kilda supporters (LAUGH) who had a hopeless club, yet entertained themselves with the odd century goal kicker, brownlow medallist, and club champion. Hopeless club, that chose to remain hopeless and focus on a few good things to keep the spirits up. Well, **** that.

The ONLY way this club stops becoming the new Melbourne is for anyone who genuinely cares about the club to recognise just how broken it is, and to refuse to endorse any behaviours that won't lead the club to a position of leadership in the competition.

Bunch of networkers led by a few people who fancy a seat on the board one day to follow in their relatives footsteps? That reverses the downward trend… how, exactly?

Inbreeding. Hardly ever turns out well in the end.

There you go with all that clear thinking shit again.

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Very civilised responses taking place on TC here.
Well done fellas. You both make good points. Good to see a forum that encourages your POV.

I too have disagreed with some on TC but I encourage their right to have an opinion and to question if we as a club follow best practise.

I agree with Synbad that everything in this club should be evaluated to ensure we never go back to the ways of the Elliot days. I never want a 2002 surprise. The hole now is our doing again.

I prefer if Carltonians were not belittled and focus was on their deeds and POV as the order of the day.

You know what, there are signs over the last decade the club hasn't learned from that past and it is right to question all these splinter groups, oligarchs..call them what you want, they are all Carlton issues and should be under the microscope. They can defend themselves and enlighten the rest of us their purpose of existence and their achievements.

At the end of the day we all have one thing in common: Carlton. We all have a right to defend our club and do our best to ensure we are heading in the right direction.

Let's not forget things are not right.

Knock Knock........Owen

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I dont think everything is rosy, and the club does need a clean out, and yes Sticks is lacking in leadership at this time. All of that I can buy, the stats dont lie, the accounts and reports dont lie. But jumping down the throat of a relatively new supporter group that is trying to do naught but help the club as far as I can tell, is a little far. Sometimes cynicism is deserved, sometimes its not.

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Great post.

There is a way forward...

A group of 7 quality Melbourne based people with solid credentials forming a ticket and taking control of the club from the oligarchs.

If Carlton wants to change, the members have to change and stop relying on the big names families.

IS THAT A THREAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

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HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

Yes. I've been pushing for Carlton and Melb United for that reason.
It's willfull blindeyed optimism, at the cost of us rebuilding a better, inclusive club.
That's just my opinion.
I really like that people like Wook, and Clayman can have a differing opinion, and not have a tanty about it and storm off.
Same with those leaving because they feel they can't properly discuss the club, and pre game stuff anymore.
Of course they can. There is a foe buttton too, so you can edit put what you don't like, and only discuss with people who's opinions you do like.
No need for storming off and stuff is there?

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

the royally inclusive children's hospital appeal?

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

The Channel Seven Secular Certainly Not Ageist In Any Way Shape or Form Health Challenged Happy Smile Time Family Hour

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HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

catchy!!

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

I'm still angry at last year's coverage featuring Bruce Mansfield dropping an f-bomb on live TV in exasperation at helium balloons getting all up in his grill, and the ensuing investigation by the television ombudsman trying to tell me he clearly said "for gods sake".

They get away with everything, the Good Friday Appeal.

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HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

You reckon that's elitist. You should check out the senior medical staff association at RCH. And I'm one of them. We voted to keep out harem pant wearing homeopaths, pedophiles, lawyers, people who dropped out of school at 15, and Greeks, amongst others. Not one Greek on the list.

where do you stand on haemophiliacs Rick?

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

Wookie,
its not about a group called YCP.. which sounds gay anyway....not that there is anything wrong with that.... but the YCP sounds pretty lame...
its more about how the club sets itself up...how its looking into the future and where it currently is.
Its vision into the future with this kind of set up only serves to say "Help us Lord!"
Everything that is wrong with this footy club is embodied in the YCP....

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What does sounds gay mean?

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dane's trolling again

Happy, like when Sunderland beat Chelsea and a Liverpool player scores the winner!