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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:19 pm 
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what actually happened is the bombers were smart to throw a few spanners in our works.
they imposed themselves physically.
they crowded their defence
they ran at our defence not kick it up high where Henderson laidler and dyg are good!
we could not did not adjust to any of this!



we got smashed out middle and at the stoppages - We went in this game with 2 blokes who have shown in the past they can play a shutdown role on someone that was Carrots and Robbo - We lost Carrotts and Robbo is struggling and was sent to Fletcher who was intent on maning up Garlett
The only other player on the park who has shown he can play a lockdown role is Gibbs but he was playing Loose man in defence and they seem reluctant to give him that role despite him taking blokes like Goodes and Pendlebury to the cleaners last year . Stanton got freed up and once that happened there was no one on that ground capable of going with him -When you look through our list of players that have been successful at that run with role- We have Armfield- Injured- Ellard recovering from Injury - Russell out of form- Joseph out of form - Carrotts out of action in the first 5 minutes

Maclean - Judd - Simpson - Murphy- Garlett- Yarren have never been run with players and everyone else on the paddock was you guessed it a HB Flanker

Its difficult how many taggers do you take into a game - Maybe Ellard might have been a better sub choice than Maclean but he is only one game back

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:32 pm 
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Was talking to a colleague today who attended a 50th wedding anniversary in geelong on the saturday after the Pies game and he told of how he socialized with an Essendon* official who assured him to put his money on Essendon* because the club is certainly confident that they have the gameplan to beat us.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:45 pm 
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so our game plan is to shut their players down?
who would have thought!

the game is about getting your hands on the ball!

we got smashed there!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:04 pm 
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Was talking to a colleague today who attended a 50th wedding anniversary in geelong on the saturday after the Pies game and he told of how he socialized with an Essendon* official who assured him to put his money on Essendon* because the club is certainly confident that they have the gameplan to beat us.


I'm not surprised or alarmed. They have been itching to beat us since late 2010. It's like how we have been itching to beat Collingwood the last couple of years.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:11 pm 
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so our game plan is to shut their players down?
who would have thought!

the game is about getting your hands on the ball!

we got smashed there!



but isn't part of you getting your hands on the ball stopping them from getting the ball

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:26 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
A good lesson for our players and although I hate losing to the Bombers, this was the right time for it to happen,
After a soft win where our rucks gave the midfield an armchair ride, our midfield were reminded of the need to be 2 way runners and to respect their opposition.

Essendon* had a plan (their ruckmen palmed the ball wide at 45 degrees and their runners ran onto it beautifully). Unfortunately our midfield and coaches box took 30 minutes to wake up to it). I chuckle at the posters potting McLean for his lack of pace chasing. Have a look at Juddy chase on the transition. He's slower than my Nana. At least Brock tried to apply pressure. He had 8 clearances and plenty of pressure acts. If Ratten drops him after that, he should get his arse kicked.

We can beat Freo but we need to pay some respect to them. If our midfield are looking to feed off Kruezers taps, they're kidding themselves. We need our ruckmen to jump into Sandilands and our mids need to feed off him. Lets see how good they can be when they dont have silver service. Its a good challenge for our blokes. I'm looking forward to see how they adapt and react.
Are we still downhill skiers or do we now have some real substance.

I chuckled at you potting the bloke that's won us so many games of his own back and turned the playing culture around 180 degrees, just to defend Brock :lol:

AJ provides more than Brock with his pace, run, hardness and shutdown ability IMO


Rexy and Duke:

As great as Judd is, I have to agree with BV here - I couldn't believe how many times I saw the Scum shuffling the ball around between their ordinary half backs whilst Judd (and others) watched on, exerting little to no pressure on the ball carrier whatsoever. And as I said, it wasn't just Judd but his efforts when we don't have the ball are a joke sometimes and they were particularly evident in this game. When was the last time you can remember Judd using his pace to run someone down from behind? I can't.

The fact is that we are an attacking team that becomes completely rattled when the opposition stifles our centre clearance/stoppage work like the Scum did on Saturday. The main problem with this game style is that when we are on we are almost invincible, whereas when we are not we are shocking. We need to become better at our Plan B.

That being said, I don't think even a well-executed Plan B would have saved us on Saturday because we just didn't look interested from the first bounce. I find that the most disturbing thing about it all.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:29 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Synbad wrote:
so our game plan is to shut their players down?
who would have thought!

the game is about getting your hands on the ball!

we got smashed there!



but isn't part of you getting your hands on the ball stopping them from getting the ball

twenty two taggers will do that for you!

tagging is reacting.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:33 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Synbad wrote:
so our game plan is to shut their players down?
who would have thought!

the game is about getting your hands on the ball!

we got smashed there!



but isn't part of you getting your hands on the ball stopping them from getting the ball

twenty two taggers will do that for you!

tagging is reacting.



Not asking for 22 - just a couple we went in with 2 we lost 1 against two blokes that knock up clearances week in week out - to many blokes front running

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:41 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
A good lesson for our players and although I hate losing to the Bombers, this was the right time for it to happen,
After a soft win where our rucks gave the midfield an armchair ride, our midfield were reminded of the need to be 2 way runners and to respect their opposition.

Essendon* had a plan (their ruckmen palmed the ball wide at 45 degrees and their runners ran onto it beautifully). Unfortunately our midfield and coaches box took 30 minutes to wake up to it). I chuckle at the posters potting McLean for his lack of pace chasing. Have a look at Juddy chase on the transition. He's slower than my Nana. At least Brock tried to apply pressure. He had 8 clearances and plenty of pressure acts. If Ratten drops him after that, he should get his arse kicked.

We can beat Freo but we need to pay some respect to them. If our midfield are looking to feed off Kruezers taps, they're kidding themselves. We need our ruckmen to jump into Sandilands and our mids need to feed off him. Lets see how good they can be when they dont have silver service. Its a good challenge for our blokes. I'm looking forward to see how they adapt and react.
Are we still downhill skiers or do we now have some real substance.

You needed to mention the lack of a plan B...

Mclean is a whipping boy used for a vent.

Murphy needs to stop running ahead of the play and padding his stats with the old Camporeale and Bradley one-two by running for the receive. That's fine if you're winning, but you need to get back to basics and get your hands dirty if you're losing the clearances. Doesn't scrap in close like Mclean, Judd, Robinson and Tuohy. Murphy isn't smaller than Kerr, so he doesn't have an excuse for his lack of work in the centre circle. Tuohy showed this desperation to make up for his error by chasing the ball and locking it in. Wanted the ball like Hulme.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:37 pm 
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The s@#^t coming out of peoples mouth on SEN today has made me wanna spew!!! Ud think we just lost the grand final!!!
just wanted to say!!!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:46 pm 
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on SEN?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:48 pm 
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bluehammer wrote:
on SEN?

Only?

Lol, i was too afraid to check elsewhere!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:48 pm 
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Over it... avoided the press all weekend... copped the crap at work today

Move along now... learn from it and prepare for Freo

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Patrick Keane‏@AFL_PKeaneReply


Sam Lonergan cleared contact A Carazzo. Panel said no secondary driving or slinging action to take Carazzo into turf as part of tackle.

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Lonergan cleared but L Thomas 2 weeks for sliding into Rohan's legs.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:02 pm 
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Anyone have any jpg reminders of the final last year? Need to fire back with something, anything!


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:13 pm 
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Effes wrote:
Patrick Keane‏@AFL_PKeaneReply


Sam Lonergan cleared contact A Carazzo. Panel said no secondary driving or slinging action to take Carazzo into turf as part of tackle.

correct conclusion


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:15 pm 
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Effes wrote:
Lonergan cleared but L Thomas 2 weeks for sliding into Rohan's legs.


Thomas got 2?? Am I missing something? Wasn't he sliding in to get the ball?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:37 pm 
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Rexy wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
A good lesson for our players and although I hate losing to the Bombers, this was the right time for it to happen,
After a soft win where our rucks gave the midfield an armchair ride, our midfield were reminded of the need to be 2 way runners and to respect their opposition.

Essendon* had a plan (their ruckmen palmed the ball wide at 45 degrees and their runners ran onto it beautifully). Unfortunately our midfield and coaches box took 30 minutes to wake up to it). I chuckle at the posters potting McLean for his lack of pace chasing. Have a look at Juddy chase on the transition. He's slower than my Nana. At least Brock tried to apply pressure. He had 8 clearances and plenty of pressure acts. If Ratten drops him after that, he should get his arse kicked.

We can beat Freo but we need to pay some respect to them. If our midfield are looking to feed off Kruezers taps, they're kidding themselves. We need our ruckmen to jump into Sandilands and our mids need to feed off him. Lets see how good they can be when they dont have silver service. Its a good challenge for our blokes. I'm looking forward to see how they adapt and react.
Are we still downhill skiers or do we now have some real substance.

I chuckled at you potting the bloke that's won us so many games of his own back and turned the playing culture around 180 degrees, just to defend Brock :lol:

AJ provides more than Brock with his pace, run, hardness and shutdown ability IMO


Not potting Judd at all. Potting players isn't my style. I'm just telling it as I see it.
Just because he is our saviour and turned the playing culture around doesn't make him exempt from a defensive game. If you're going to have potshots at McLean, at least be consistent with your expectations for the rest of the group.
As for AJ. Yes his run and shut down ability is good but his decision making and Kicking is well behind McLeans.
It looks like those who make the decisions see it McLean superior at the moment as well. That's all that matters.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:45 pm 
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Over it... avoided the press all weekend... copped the crap at work today

Move along now... learn from it and prepare for Freo


+1

Avoided the smug-looking Scum fans all day. Told them to take the $21 for the Flag when I couldn't avoid them.....


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