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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:18 pm 
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You shouldn't have, woj.

No. Really.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:48 pm 
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JohnM wrote:
You shouldn't have, woj.

No. Really.


I've only seen a few eps of that show John..my daughter loves it..
so I can honestly say I have no idea what you are talking about there :grin: but I feel your passion...it's reminding me of Donstui and Essendon*..ya just don't go there! :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:04 pm 
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Dr.SHERRIN wrote:

In that case, can I suggest you go and support a team that suits you better. Clearly, you're not a Carlton supporter. You think you are...maybe you used to be....but the aforementioned paragraphs says it all. You're more than entitled to your opinion - which I'm pretty sure everyone got after you gave it for the 7th time....but let's take a closer look at who you respect more than the Carlton Football Club.

* Essendon*.
To those of you potting Nike - there are at least 2 reasons why you shouldn't. Every single commercial indicator says that to have an clash guensey that contrasts the regular one is good for business. It sells! Selling merchandise is good for business! How many clash jumpers will Essendon* sell? Not many. As far as I'm concerned that's their loss.

The second reason is money. Yep - cold hard cash makes the footy world go 'round. If you don't understand that - then you're living in the 60's. Without it, Carlton doesn't exist...and in order to succeed, we need to make a lot of it. It was only a handful of years ago that we advertised in the Financial Review for sponsors. Nike give us a few hundred thousand every year. Gonna knock that back?

We've won 2 flags in the last 27 years. And in the last 10 we came close to extinction. We have no choice but to move with the times.

I understand you might be a traditionalist. But as a young man once said 'Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.' The footy club is simply heeding his advice. I for one applaud it wholeheartedly.





I understand where you are coming from with your Essendon* tirade, so I will skip that and go straight to your assumption that clash guernseys are "good for business". It is a bit like the greedy small farmer wanting immediate returns, raping the land, ploughing it, over seeding it and then wondering why five years down the track he ain't got anything growing in his little plot of land.

ie - Nike tell them - look we can make $100,000 selling this god awful gaey blue guernsey to all the teenyboppers - let's do it. Carlton say...mmm. yes, cash....not realising five years down the track they have damaged the brand. Meanwhile the competition (ie the Essendon*'s, the Collingwood's, the Richmond's) haven't damaged their brand.

Imagine if Nike started selling cheaper shirts, but changed their swoosh sign to a big fat blob...will that damage the brand long term?
I think it would.

Immediate $ vs long-term profit.

If you think that blue smurf outfit they are getting Carlton players to wear is "good for the brand" then I disagree with you 100%.
Brand loyalty doesn't come from treating people like pillocks - and that smurf outfit is taking the piss.


There are Collingwood supporters saying it looks like women's pyjamas...and the annoying thing is they are right.... I don't mind other club's mocking the club's performances, the players or whatever, but the guernsey is off limits in my books.

Thankfully I won't be there in the four games they play in pyjamas, and I am just trying to imagine what it would be like playing in that guernsey if it was against Collingwood. Winning "wooden spoons" is one thing but playing in pyjamas is far more humiliating.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:02 pm 
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we should have dictated the colour to Nike, not the other way around which is what happened.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:12 pm 
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I keep saying it over and over and over again but we have become what the StKilda football club was for over 100 years in 21st century. That is insulting and humiliating. Everytime I think we have not, we do something that just highlights it's more and more. I'm over it.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:22 pm 
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The jumper aside we are travelling very well, just terrible that Swann's 'explanation' was so poor.




and that people are choosing to ignore how bad it was

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:31 pm 
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kingkerna wrote:
we should have dictated the colour to Nike, not the other way around which is what happened.


Rumour has it they got the idea of the colour from...






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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:35 pm 
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from Bower & Russell?

Sakc them!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:39 pm 
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Haven't read the entire thread.
Don't like the new ones as much as the old white ones.

I won't be buying one.

I don't care if they want to play in pink. They're still my team and I'll be back in Mexico next season (unfortunately) sitting up in the darkness listening or when I can, watching on JTV.

The colour of the jumper may well be important but it's not as important as the colour of the blood that runs through my veins.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:20 pm 
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The more I see this jumper the less i like it

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:28 pm 
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Can someone please wake me when the babies have stopped sooking?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:35 pm 
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Blue Sombrero wrote:
Haven't read the entire thread.
Don't like the new ones as much as the old white ones.

I won't be buying one.

I don't care if they want to play in pink. They're still my team and I'll be back in Mexico next season (unfortunately) sitting up in the darkness listening or when I can, watching on JTV.

The colour of the jumper may well be important but it's not as important as the colour of the blood that runs through my veins.



How can you say on one hand that the colour of the jumper is important, then on the other say you're happy if they play in pink? :confused:

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He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:37 pm 
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:mad: :mad: :mad:

My filth-supporting brother loves the new jumper*.

:mad: :mad: :mad:





*Code for, he knows how weak/stupid/wrong we are to adopt it.

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THEY LIKE TO SEND UP!!!!!!!!

Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:45 pm 
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Even :garthp: is overpowered by the content of this thread.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:48 pm 
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I have to say some of the reactions in here are very entertaining.. :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 5:43 am 
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Kaptain Kouta wrote:
Can someone please wake me when the babies have stopped sooking?

So...next november then?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 5:48 am 
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Donstuie wrote:
Kaptain Kouta wrote:
Can someone please wake me when the babies have stopped sooking?

So...next november then?


That soon?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:37 am 
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l for one am happy with the new jumper.

l like the color very much.

For those who can't take shit from their mates about footy, you need to ensure you have no friends.

We had one of the highest profit from our merchandise in 2010 which is fantastic. This new jumper will ensure that continues to rise.

Great choice by Nike and the club.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:16 am 
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It's actually growing on me. I think it will stand out nicely on field and I bet it will be really popular with children.

And let's face it - like our membership slogans it attracts publicity. How many other teams would attract so much from introducing a new clash guernsey?


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:23 am 
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bluedog wrote:
Blue Sombrero wrote:
Haven't read the entire thread.
Don't like the new ones as much as the old white ones.

I won't be buying one.

I don't care if they want to play in pink. They're still my team and I'll be back in Mexico next season (unfortunately) sitting up in the darkness listening or when I can, watching on JTV.

The colour of the jumper may well be important but it's not as important as the colour of the blood that runs through my veins.



How can you say on one hand that the colour of the jumper is important, then on the other say you're happy if they play in pink? :confused:


How can you say I said the colour of the jumper is important when I didn't say that at all?

If you want to make smart comments about peoples' posts, perhaps you should read them first.

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