Personally i think AJ should go on Johnstone as he can carve you up with his disposal and cant cope with the tag, making him a logical target...Black hasnt been in great form and his in-and-under style is harder to tag... AJ can be swapped to Black if he becomes damaging.

Im not sure but i think Jamo might be giving away a bit of height to Brown? I wouldnt mind seeing Setanta on him with sole purpose to be in body contact with him at all times with Thornton helping out...

Carrazzo on Drummond

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If Russell plays this week and contributes positively to the Carlton Football Club I will be happy.

If Russell does not play this week but plays well in the reserves and then earns his spot back and then contributes positively to the Carlton Football Club I will be happy.

If Russell does not play this week and struggles in the reserves and never plays seniors again but gives 100% I will be happy.

If Russell plays this week and contributes negatively to the Carlton Football Club I will be sad.

If Russell does not play this week and does not put in 100% in the reserves and never plays seniors again I will be sad.

That just about covers it.

Apply that to every player and that is my philosophy.

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I think AJ might take hooper

we need to be wary of ash mcgrath too

he tore the kangaroos to shreds last week

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

I think AJ took hooper last time didnt he?
Who took Johnstone in round 2?

I woulda thought as AJ is more a midfield tagger he'd take Johnstone
Then Armfield take Hooper as he plays in the back half

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Translated so Jar's point is relevant to the topic in this forum:

If Carltonl plays this week and contributes positively to the Carlton Football Club I will be happy.

If Carlton does not play this week but plays well in the reserves and then earns his spot back and then contributes positively to the Carlton Football Club I will be happy.

If Carlton does not play this week and struggles in the reserves and never plays seniors again but gives 100% I will be happy.

If Carlton plays this week and contributes negatively to the Carlton Football Club I will be sad.

If Carlton does not play this week and does not put in 100% in the reserves and never plays seniors again I will be sad.

That just about covers it.

Apply that to every Carlton and that is my philosophy.

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russell took johstone last game and probably will this weekend too when he comes in as a late change

im more worried about hooper, harding, adcock, drummond and mcgrath

than black , johnstone and power

the midfield can go head to head

we need to shut down their small forwards and running defenders

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

The selections are clearly a reaction to the Adelaide game. Horses for courses. Aussie is really unlucky but he'll be back. Just hope the inclusions are not underdone: 3 blokes who haven't played much footy of late.

...Can't make up his mind, that bloke, did someone have a little word in his ear. I would have hoped that he would have come up with a more subtle denouement, myself.

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Just because I'm offended, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Actually yibbida you are quite catagorically wrong, there is at least one semi-regular poster here (and from TBV days) who has played more senior games for CFC than JR.

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Who?

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The problem will be made. for the solution to be sold, to your face before your eyes, tolerance is now the new danger

Wrong thread...sorry...just responding to comment made about the players thread. I've got no idea where the issues thread is...I'm into football and CFC.

I have nothing bad to say about anyone, in fact I wanted to congratulate Austin last week for stepping up, Stevens for throwing his body in and showing all the knockers, Houla for the class he added, to welcome back Garlett, support AA consideration for Bower, the return of Simmo 'the captain', Judd wrecking machine, Fevola could still kick a ton in the remaining season, I thought Russell was not bad and good at times etc...just to counter all the negative comments about those players.

AS for me being sheepish on Saturday....why would I? I hadn't dropped Russell, and he's not going to make or break our chances, he'd add a different angle.

Now now, don't be so precious.

WE are going to smash them in the ruck.

If Carrots' hand can withstand tackling, then I would like him to tag Black.
If Russell plays, I would like him to tag Black.

Then our midfield can strut there stuff. Great to see Scotto added to the centreline. Looks strong.

We are going to win because our forwardline is going to function, the midfield will put scoreboard pressure on and we will have the pill more than them.

It's important we shut the home crowd down right from the start...then the Carlton supporter base will overpower them too and make it feel like a home game.

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I'm not naming them, and I don't expect anyone else here who knows to name anyone either because it is just grandstanding really. There is no need because it is really not that big a deal, they are just another supporter contributing to the forum. If you have read TBV and TC over the last 5 years you would have had a chance to see it pretty clearly.

... and knowing what I know about the Carlton online community (through people contacting the blueseum) there are many many, players, girlfriends of players, relatives of players, past players, relatives of past players, and also officials and administrators of the club who read, and sometimes contribute to all the CFC forums.

It's a slice of the CFC community and that includes people who are now part of CFC directly or indirectly.

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Yep, fair enough.

I think the decisions at TC, re TP and even the issues with player bashing are quite obviously influenced by those who have personal relationships with the players.

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The reactions over JR centre on his (perceived) playing ability, not on the person himself. And subsequently on the MC.

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THEY LIKE TO SEND UP!!!!!!!!

Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

My personal opinion is that there is a huge difference between saying "I agree with Russel's omission this week", or "I'm happy that JR has been dropped"; and saying things in the manner of "thank god he's gone!", or posting pictures and videos of fireworks/celebrations/praising the lord.

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I AM DISENFRANCHISED

Couple of Premiership players read it...couple who used to have a quiet drink with Premiership players read it, couple who taught players at school - they post on here, bloke who delivered newspapers for Bruce Doull posts on here, bloke who signed Mark Maclure to an Aquila shoes deal posts on here and a bloke who got his dog neutered by Andy McKay posts regularly on here too. Blues by 17 points.

So you are unhappy about the actual words used to describe a person's emotion about a particular subject? Didn't know there is a template for something like this.

Any reasonable person would assume that these guys are playing the ball and not the man. I am pretty certain the comments are not personal. Let's not get too precious here.

People need to get over it!!!!!

The satisfaction is not over JR having poor form and getting dropped - he is a number one draft pick and I would WISH that he turns into a gun and is not a wasted pick.

THE SATISFACTION IS THAT RATTEN FINALLY HAD THE BALLS TO DROP HIM

If ANY OTHER player is not up to scratch form-wise he would be dropped. Are you 'leave jordy alone' bleeding hearts honestly saying that Joe Anderson or Dennis Armfield or Mitch Robinson never try very hard?
JUST BECAUSE JR TRIES HARD DOES NOT MEAN HE SHOULD BE AN AUTOMATIC SELECTION

Ratts has finally caved in and gotten a bit of perspective and dare I say it ruthlessness.
You CAN'T PLAY FAVOURITES at this level.

Nobody is suggesting that JR is the worst player in the AFL, or even our team.

WE ARE JUST VENTING OUR FRUSTRATION, and subsequent relief,
That Ratts and the MC have finally taken a positive step in their OWN development and given JR a week off - which is the right thing to do.
Not to say that last week was his worst game, but he has not been in our best 22 EVERY week, and NOBODY should be immune.

If you're going to send a message to Scotty and Houla, then you have to send a message to JR as well.
Too bad if his mum or his grandma doesn't like it.

He's a big boy and he needs to try harder if he's going to make it.
That's the harsh reality.




I WOULD RATHER BE A PREMIERSHIP CLUB THAT MAKES THE HARD DECISIONS ON EVERYONE, than a kindergarten for unfulfilled first round draft picks.
WE ARE NOT RICHMOND !!!!

I'm glad to see that we have gone with some more run for this trip, and having a couple of older players interstate is not a bad thing. The only concern would be Carrazzo's finger and whether he is really ready for a game. Scotland is quality and Grigg, although not flying in the 2's, has played a couple of games and will hopefully raise the bar accordingly.

Disappointed to see Austin out but know that team balance probably means he has to go. He's had a taste and will get another go.

Glad the big Irishman is still in, as I think his athleticism and strength will be useful, and needs a run to see to give him a chance. Hopefully he takes it with both hands, and even his feet too if needs be.

I quite like Russell, but think it is good if he can go back to the Bullants for a bit and find some form (not sure how it works, but apparently wherever it gets lost, it always seems to wind up at the 2's). I'd like to see him develop a bit more of a running game, and so when he comes back he can hurt the opposition more the other way. He's quite a good size and would love to see him take them on, run through a few tackles.

And with luck, and having Scotland and Grigg back in, Gibbs might be spared from the half back area and have a run in the midfield/half-forward area. He sets it up so well and is such a good link man. Always seems to make the right choice. And with him and Carrazzo up there, it might give Drummond and Adcock more to worry about and less chance to create the drive from half-back.

AJ to Black or Power. Carrazzo in the same role he had against the bulldogs. Grigg on Johnstone?

Maybe Kreuzer can drop down forward too, stretch their defense, making them drag Bradshaw down back. But I can't see Voss letting that happen. Bradshaw is too useful up forward.

Prediction: Judd to play a pearler, including one goal on the run ala his effort against the Lions when he played in blue and yellow. Murphy to go to town. Fev for at least 4. The Brisbane forwards to cause us trouble, but not enough as we win by 2 or 3 goals.

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ok so obviously i mean A TOP draft pick, not a number one