Out: Cripps, Betts, Williamson, Cottrell

In: Gibbons, TDK, Plowman, Honey

...some speed and some aerial (& a little bit of mongrel hunger)

The 'outs' don't have any of that at present.

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Que Sera, Sera

Willo one of few with any hunger. The continual calls for him to be outed are amusing.

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"I had to eat"

This

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

TDK, Pittonet, Levi and Harry all in the one side doesn’t seem too speedy. Maybe swap Willo for Pittonet in your outs?

I’d rather see Owies than Honey as an in.

Willo has improved a heap the second half of the year. Taking the game on and not afraid of making mistakes. That’s what we need. As he matures mistakes will become less frequent, but for me he is best 18.

Cottrell just had a rest. Should be persevered with.

SPS needs to be dropped, or moved to the midfield.

Macreadie will get his chance. A strong preseason and I think he will be ready to emerge in 2021.

Same with O’Brien. One more preseason to build his body up and I think he can start to emerge next year as a long Term player.

I don't know what I'm talking about.

On the one hand, and my preference is that I want a winning team (especially against the Swans with Rowbottom a family friend, and living in Sydney, let alone a chance at Finals with 3 wins), and I have no idea who is sore, injured, underdone or out of form. Only the coach knows if players are following instructions. Then on the other hand I want to see the draftees we put some many games into over the last 2-3 years.

SPS imo is out of form, and he hasn't earned the right to play midfield.

Cottrell looked engaged and alert but weak at the contest imo. Can't remember much of what he did other than bomb it like his twin Robbo

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Fair enough. But I don't think he's best 18 right this minute, but understand the point that the more he plays the more the mistakes will be reduced. He is making mistakes that cost a lot. He and Jones cost us a lot against the GWS, and I think that needs to be said.

I can see he needs to learn more about his role and his limitations. No one is perfect, not at 21yo, and hopefully he will improve enough to hold a position in the best 22 next year. After all, we are building a team for the Flag, not just the 8.

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I don't know about hunger, because I usually use that word for the ball hunters: mids. I do see him as a competitor and he seems to care about his performance and what his opponent does.

Some supporters believe we should pick a team who can win whilst the possibility of finals is possible, whilst others want to play the kids and get games into them.

Williamson and Jones are probably best we have, but lets not let them off the hook ompletely. Some of the things (yes plural) both did were not good viewing and costly.

Just realised Williamson is 22yo. He's still young and hasn't enjoyed any exposure in the seniors in the last 2 years.

Its Ok to point out weaknesses, and its OK to want to see others before the season is out. No one is going to listen to us that makes decisions anyway. I like reading Williamson has strong support for the good things he brings to the team.

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Can't believe people talk about blooding youngsters to give them game time and then want Williamson dropped. At 22 and very little game time over the past 2 seasons due to injury, he needs to play. His only real weaknesses are a lack of telling Jones what to do during game time and having no right foot. So play him over the next 3 weeks and then over the preseason he is only to kick using his right foot. If he plays next year not being able to kick with his right foot then I will be on the "drop him" bandwagon.

'Amusing' is an interesting synonym for 'having NFI'.

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Yep. Don't see the logic in dropping him. One of the few willing to take the game on and break the lines. Yes he makes mistakes but no less than our co-captains and he has a bit of mongrel about him which we greatly lack. Despite his mistakes, his skills for the most part are sound. Our 2 best and most attacking kick ins after a GWS behind last week were when Willo took them. Moved it quickly, took a bit of a gamble and we were far better for it rather than the slow predictable stuff Doc and Simmo do when they bring the ball in.

Owies playing apparently

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"I had to eat"

Good. He deserves an opportunity. Personally I have significant doubts about him but good on him for forcing his way in.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Like most here, I just base his performance on the stats I see online. I have enjoyed reading your VFL reports over the past couple of years, so unlike most of us, you have actually seem him play a few times.
With that, what aspects of his game do you have doubts on?

Dow played in the 12 v 12 junk match v GSW today

Ditto OBrien

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In all fairness, CC1961 started a thread about making the finals, and made it clear he wanted to pick teams to win whilst it is a possibility, and never mentioned anything about blooding youngsters. Have a look.

Its not about lacking faith in Willo to make it.

But why should Williamson be the only one to try out at HB in the seniors?
Williamson has played every game since Newman got injured.
Its not like Willo has missed out on opportunity or dropped for his mistakes.

All kids make mistakes. Williamson has made plenty.
Why not let another kid have a shot to show their wares, make as many mistakes and we can get a better idea of our list and our future?

I just want to see others before the season is out, just not all of them in at the same time.
I know what Willo offers, and i know some of the areas he needs to work on too.

OBrien, for eg, was a giffted HB with an amazing left peg. See the write up on him before being drafted.
Now, compare that with Williamson's Profile. Both have weapons, but OBrien was obviously rated higher prior tp the draft and on draft day: (Top 10 vs Pick 60)
OBrien hasn't been tried at HB. I think he should be.

I ask you, is there a problem with wanting to see OBrien tried at HB? Nothing personal.
I hope that answers your question.

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in: plowman, owies, tdk, cunners
out: polson, betts, Pittonet, dow

official

Polson and Dow omitted, the other two managed. Polson stiff imo. Would have played him ahead of Simpson.

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Polson out is an absolute DISGRACE.