I don't give a damn about Gone with the Wind.

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It's Salem's American Indian name.

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Our four highest possession getters last game were HBkers Walker, Scotland, Simspon, Gibbs

So while it's important to have a dominant midfield right now much of our drive is coming from defense

We do need to add to the midfield though, no doubt, and they need to be big bodied

how so? all the highlighted below will get plenty of games in 2014

2007 - Kreuzer, Browne, Armfield
2008 - Yarran, Robinson, O'Keeffe, Tiller
2009 - Lucas, Davies, Kerr
2010 - Watson, McCarthy, Mitchell, McInnes, Duigan
2011 - Bootsma, Rowe, Buckley
2012 - Menzel, Temay, Graham

Half a side.

Admittedly we could have done better in 2009 and 2010 in the later rounds but some important cogs in the wheel were filled. *waits for Watson haters*

Great more bloody HBF's

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well currently we have Walker and Simpson there so don't be surprised if we look to get more...we just need to be very wise in our selections and IMO not reach too early.

it's a strong midfield draft and i'd hate for us to miss out.

Agree. I hope we do some smart trading and can get 3-4 picks inside the top 30. Then use them on players who can consistently get 25 possessions a week, work both ways and can use the ball. PLEASE

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Question without notice: is there still a list around detailing players contracts, eg. date signed up until? Cheers.

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Thanks!

1. Andrew Walker - Aug 2011, 3 years...........2014
2. Troy Menzel
3. Marc Murphy - June 2011, 3 years.............2014
4. Bryce Gibbs - May 2010, 2 years................2014
5. Chris Judd - May 2013, 1 year...................2014
6. Kade Simpson - Aug 2011, 3 years..............2014
7. Dylan Buckley - 2 years (?) .......................2013
8. Matthew Kreuzer - Feb 2010, 2yrs...............2015
9. Kane Lucas - October 2011, 2 yrs................2013
10. Matthew Watson
11. Robert Warnock - July 2012, 3 years ...........2015
12. Mitch Robinson - Mar 2012, 2 yrs................2014
13. Chris Yarran - July 2012, 2 yrs....................2014
14. Brock McLean - October 2012, 1 yr..............2013 (with a 1yr option)
15. Jeremy Laidler
16. Andrew Collins
17. Sam Rowe - July 2013, 1 year ..............2014
18. Tom Temay
19. Eddie Betts - July 2010, 3 years..................2013
20. Rhys O'Keefe - (R3) October 2012 1 yr...............2013
21. Josh Bootsma - Nov 2011, 2 years (?) ........ 2013
22. Shaun Hampson - Sept 2011, 3 years..........2014
23. Lachie Henderson - July 2013, 2 yrs ............2015
24. Patrick McCarthy
25. Luke Mitchell
26. Andrew McInnes
27. Dennis Armfield - May 2013, 2 yrs.................2015
28. Tom Bell - October 2012, 2 yrs ....................2014 (with a 3rd yr option)
29. Heath Scotland - 2012, 1 year...................2013
30. Jarrad Waite - Oct 2011, 3 years................2014
31. Marcus Davies
32. Nicholas Graham
33.
34. Nick Duigan
35. Ed Curnow
36.
37. Jaryd Cachia
38. Jefferey Garlett - August 2011, 3 yr extension..2014
39. Frazer Dale (R2) ............. Sept 2012, 1 yr ............ 2013
40. Michael Jamison - April 2011, 3 yrs................2014
41. Levi Casboult - Oct 2012, 2 yrs....................2014 (Elevated to Snr list)
42. Zach Tuohy - June 2013, 3 years.................2016 (Elevated to the Snr list for 2013)
43. Simon White - Sep 2012, 1 yr......................2013
44. Andrew Carrazzo - March 2013, 2 years............2015
45. Aaron Joseph - September 2011, 2 yrs............2013
46. David Ellard - Sept 2011 2011, 2 yrs...............2013

fairly sure this is up to date

Ok the Dogs mids beat the more fancied WC tall forwards.

If you dont have ball finding mids that can spread both ways and run hard and execute.. forget it!!!
WC horrible midfield.
Dogs hrrible tall forwards

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No Naitanui Kerr Shuey Hurn Waters Glass LeCras, Masten busted ankle early.

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I like the Dogs, they have a nice mix of good senior leaders and a great young crop coming up but they have a long way to go still.

Wallis, Liberatore, Macrae, Smith, Hrovat, Hunter and Dalhaus sets their midfield up for a long time. Looks like Roughead and Talia will be solid for them down back but they're probably a KPD and KPF away from being comfortable. Their tall forward stocks make our's look like GWS'

So did the Bulldogs have a full side in???
Nic Nat missing...

Kerr is finished.... Shuey is mid and Masten is mid..

the rest are ust flankers and periphery players.
Glass isnt needed against the Dogs.
They dont have a midfield...

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The West Coast versus Western Bulldogs example is a simplistic argument, it was one game and there are a lot variables involved. Some sides have quality in both areas and we still have to beat them, too.

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have to draft the best available pure midfielder at our first pick

@#$%&! the HBFer off !!!

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

..from memory dee's used a compo pick to get boyd didn't they..?.... ..down the track it will seem the dee's robbed the giants blind.. ..they're also in full rebuild mode, and can perhaps 'afford' to make the call.. ..i think being a 'middle team' is dangerous, cos a 'bold move' can take you fwd, or lose you years..

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You mean, Hogan? I'm not sure of the details but I thought they gave up their first round pick. Anyway, GWS could never select Hogan themselves, they could only trade the rights to select him as a 17Y/A.

The danger with us is that we are a side that needs to rebuild but we have a small group of players that help keep us in certain games. We are a unique case, if we choose to keep having a crack at finals and recruit accordingly, I can see us dropping down to the bottom four if it doesn't work out. The point is, Hogan would have just about gone number one or two last year if he had have been available anyway. What price was he worth to GWS that year? Were Melbourne clever or was it inevitable given their drafting position?

I think most people on this forum are experiencing cognitive dissonance and seem confused in regards to whether we are rebuilding or trying to milk our finals chances. In my opinion, it's not what we lack right now that's the issue, what it takes to be a premiership side is. That last point is always what bugs us.

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