Apart from McRae falling ass backwards into a flag, how many coaches win one within 5 years?
Genuinely interested and too lazy to research

Apart from McRae falling ass backwards into a flag, how many coaches win one within 5 years?
Genuinely interested and too lazy to research

See also Chris Scott in 2011, although he's proven himself more than enough since then.

Adam Simpson started with the Eagles at the start of 2014, so just meets that criteria, winning at the end of 2018 (they also made the 2015 GF).

John Longmire took over from Roos at the start of the 2011 season and won the following year.

Luke Beveridge started with the Dogs in 2015 and won the following year.

Simon Goodwin took over from Roos in 2017 and won in his 5th season in charge.

Alastair Clarkson started in 2005 and won his first at the end of his 4th year.

So, there's been a few.

my gut says the same.

the times of our win streaks, he was almost forced into them, by not having the players he wanted available. as soon as he had a healthy (ish) list, he'd revert back his big dinosaurs, moving one speed, but owning the stoppage with brutality that isn't sustainable over 24 games per season.

our best - the 9 game winstreak in '23 and going 9-0 with tdk and no pittonet this season, we were a high pressure team, with excellent turnover, and for one 5 game streak, we were #1 offense and #2 defensive team in the afl.

and then voss veers away from that proven gf winning formula, and reverts back to his bash them (and ourselves in the process) brand of footy.


we make much of russell being bad at his job ... but we need to acknowledge Voss's gameplan was just as horrendous and unrealistic and caused much of russell's woes. if the new guy can't get us fit under this playstyle, what then?


my gut says we've peaked under voss. winning 23 from 27 games was our high water mark.


2025 is a big year. another long bomb, bash them at the coalface and play the wings slow, won't cut it. voss will be fired by midyear - and then we're scrambling to save the season.


it's all a shitshow.

Also, John Worsfold lost in 2005, but won in 2006, his fifth year as coach of the Eagles.

In contrast, Hardwick and Thompson each took 8 years.

His problem is with the core of the current list he is welded to that style of play. We can move away from it slightly and get results but we gave be in peak condition due to our lack of running power. Peak condition usually lasts a month for us. Even better if we come up against tired teams like the Cats were when we got them. But teams adjust quickly to what we are doing, our conditioning drops off and we fall away. Having Curnow, Harry, Cripps, Hewitt, Kennedy , Cera and E. Hollands all in a team limits our running power. Even Wietering . Anyone who watched Sam Taylor on the weekend would have seen another level of aggression, agility and fast twitch intensity a key defender can have to give a group more energy while also stopping goals from being kicked.

A few gusty tweaks to the list, his selected team and game style could save his job. At this stage I just want a bit of excitement added to gameday.

See also Chris Scott in 2011, although he's proven himself more than enough since then.

Adam Simpson started with the Eagles at the start of 2014, so just meets that criteria, winning at the end of 2018 (they also made the 2015 GF).

John Longmire took over from Roos at the start of the 2011 season and won the following year.

Luke Beveridge started with the Dogs in 2015 and won the following year.

Simon Goodwin took over from Roos in 2017 and won in his 5th season in charge.

Alastair Clarkson started in 2005 and won his first at the end of his 4th year.

So, there's been a few.

that hard, unsociable gameplane has been passed by, bondi. it's a decade old now.

fast spread, over lapping run & handball chains, high pressure and turnover is now the new algorithm.


don't forget when russell was successful, we had unlimited interchanges. don't discount all of his success came with that flexibility.

that hard, unsociable gameplane has been passed by, bondi. it's a decade old now.

fast spread, over lapping run & handball chains, high pressure and turnover is now the new algorithm.


don't forget when russell was successful, we had unlimited interchanges. don't discount all of his success came with that flexibility.

my gut says the same.

the times of our win streaks, he was almost forced into them, by not having the players he wanted available. as soon as he had a healthy (ish) list, he'd revert back his big dinosaurs, moving one speed, but owning the stoppage with brutality that isn't sustainable over 24 games per season.

our best - the 9 game winstreak in '23 and going 9-0 with tdk and no pittonet this season, we were a high pressure team, with excellent turnover, and for one 5 game streak, we were #1 offense and #2 defensive team in the afl.

and then voss veers away from that proven gf winning formula, and reverts back to his bash them (and ourselves in the process) brand of footy.


we make much of russell being bad at his job ... but we need to acknowledge Voss's gameplan was just as horrendous and unrealistic and caused much of russell's woes. if the new guy can't get us fit under this playstyle, what then?


my gut says we've peaked under voss. winning 23 from 27 games was our high water mark.


2025 is a big year. another long bomb, bash them at the coalface and play the wings slow, won't cut it. voss will be fired by midyear - and then we're scrambling to save the season.


it's all a shitshow.

It’s not all a shit show

We finished 4th and then bombed relatively to 8th

Sure things have to be addressed. How you address them is what matters.

Far from a shit show if you believe successful teams are the ones that learn from their failings.

As you say in contrast - 2025 is a big year…..let’s focus on that opportunity.

We stick with Voss unless you’re ‘old’ Carlton and wedded to the next messiah available.

On Saturday night Voss looked clueless. Does anyone know why he decided to go sit in the coaches box? Was it just resignation? Not a great sign from your fearless leader

I can't see the relevance of your last comment.

Doer it really matter?

Can you draw a conclusion from that?