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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2025
PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 5:19 pm 
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Matt Kennedy would be handy. @#$%&! me


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2025
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bluechampion wrote:
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WTF
I feel sorry for the kid.
This only happens at Carlton.


No.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1271031

At least he got six games last year, but yeah not good for them either.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2025
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Braithy wrote:
are we are cooked? or am i overreacting?

all the eggs went into the jagga basket. i knew when newman went down we were in for it. houston was not only the heir to newman, but a substantial upgrade and the key to "win now"... we headed in a different direction.

fair enough. fast forward 4 months.

... now we look threadbare across the ground. walsh is again injured and missing another pre-season, cripps another year older, charlie has been injured for 6 months and counting, tdk is literally held together by elsatoplast and weiters is the only AFL defender on the books. jagga's rookie year to learn is gone before it even started, and by the time he's back, we could be back to bottom 6 material.

i'm still not even convinced voss is a good coach. which is ok, bcos he's a motivator. but what's not okay is surrounding him with the same potatoes who butchered last season, with slow ball movement, and long bombs to contests.

praccy match or not... the way we moved the ball from HB to forward was diabolical yday and that won't cut it.

it's unreal. we are unreal.


Gee thanks for the pep talk :razz:


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2025
PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 5:44 pm 
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Humpers wrote:
I wonder why they didn't remove the screw during his previous knee 'minor procedure' in December?

re Charlie. That’s a great question Humpers. Orthopaedic surgeons have an interesting mindset and I know a few. Once their initial handiwork is done and bones are all healed they are happy to leave any residual hardware (pins screws) in indefinitely in many cases. There is no urgency to go back and take it out. This was brought home to me a year ago when my wife fractured her ankle and had 12 pins and plates inserted. Now it all healed up OK but the rehab was slow as expected and she still had quite some pain and stiffness. At the 6 month mark the orthopaedic surgeon who was a mate of mine was about to discharge her and I said to him. Are you going to take all that metal out at some stage. It can’t be great from a rehab perspective leaving it in. And he said sure I’ll take it out. And booked her in in 4 weeks and took it out. I’m a specialist doctor myself and I said to him. But M why didnt you suggest it. If I’d said nothing were you ever going to come back to me on it?
My sense is that once their job is done and bones are fixed and healed they are happy to get on with the next case.

Charlie has had such a rocky road that you’d suggest they’d want to leave well enough alone. But he hasn’t been great. Surely early post season is the time to do this shit, not late February. What do I know


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2025
PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 5:50 pm 
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It’s almost pointless predicting when players come back from injury
One the human body heals at different rates for individuals
And then there is the media focus which continues to get bigger even though most of it is bullshit and not worth listening to.

And then there is a final in Brisbane last year where a number of players who were injured played over fit players who were in form
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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2025
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keogh wrote:
It’s almost pointless predicting when players come back from injury
One the human body heals at different rates for individuals
And then there is the media focus which continues to get bigger even though most of it is bullshit and not worth listening to.

And then there is a final in Brisbane last year where a number of players who were injured played over fit players who were in form
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What a farce ..... amateur s#it

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 Post subject: Injury thread 2025
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Melbourne and Carlton appealing SSP cut off date . Claiming teams that had already played had an unfair advantage

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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2025
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Melbourne and Carlton appealing SSP cut off date . Claiming teams that had already played had an unfair advantage

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I think the Club have a fair point .

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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2025
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Matt Kennedy would be handy. @#$%&! me


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2025
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oh Great... Just Great.... an ACL Injury to our Top Pick and he hasn't even began his Career yet!

Let's just add another injury Prone player to the list. Once an ACL is done, a player will never be the same as he used to be, so I won't be shocked if Jagga turns out to be a failed experiment... YET Again with this Cursed Club!


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2025
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oh Great... Just Great.... an ACL Injury to our Top Pick and he hasn't even began his Career yet!

Let's just add another injury Prone player to the list. Once an ACL is done, a player will never be the same as he used to be, so I won't be shocked if Jagga turns out to be a failed experiment... YET Again with this Cursed Club!
Poster on Big Footy saw Durdin in a moonboot.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2025
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missnaut wrote:
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oh Great... Just Great.... an ACL Injury to our Top Pick and he hasn't even began his Career yet!

Let's just add another injury Prone player to the list. Once an ACL is done, a player will never be the same as he used to be, so I won't be shocked if Jagga turns out to be a failed experiment... YET Again with this Cursed Club!
Poster on Big Footy saw Durdin in a moonboot.



Yes, Durdin is Smart.... He is trying to trick the Curse Gods so he can be left alone :clap:


In all Seriousness, The Club should Ice all of our Top players and not play them in any competitive pre-season Crap Games. They are fit enough to Go right from Rd1. They don't need match practice.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2025
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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2025
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Dodo27 wrote:
oh Great... Just Great.... an ACL Injury to our Top Pick and he hasn't even began his Career yet!

Let's just add another injury Prone player to the list. Once an ACL is done, a player will never be the same as he used to be, so I won't be shocked if Jagga turns out to be a failed experiment... YET Again with this Cursed Club!



It didn't stop Ashcroft from bouncing back & winning a Norm Smith.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2025
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As I understand it “Kumbaya” is in the free domain now - so no need for any royalties to be paid.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2025
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Mickstar wrote:
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Melbourne and Carlton appealing SSP cut off date . Claiming teams that had already played had an unfair advantage

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I think the Club have a fair point .



Considering what Carlton has been through in the last 20 years - surely they can allow Melbourne and Carlton to add a list spot seeing as Smith is out before the season started. Why wait until the mid-season draft?
It doesn't make sense.
The whole AFL competition is largely bankrolled by Carlton & a couple of other clubs. If they want the money for their expansion so they can get a team into Devenport or wherever it is...the Devenport Donkeys or Tasmanian goat herders...etc...then be flexible.

Denver Grainger-Barrass- give him the spot.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2025
PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 10:02 am 
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Mickstar wrote:
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Melbourne and Carlton appealing SSP cut off date . Claiming teams that had already played had an unfair advantage

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I think the Club have a fair point .

Yeah, but nah.

We had eight blokes trialling with the club since November. Two of them were previously on the list.

Shit or get off the pot.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2025
PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 10:20 am 
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Crusader wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Melbourne and Carlton appealing SSP cut off date . Claiming teams that had already played had an unfair advantage

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I think the Club have a fair point .

Yeah, but nah.

We had eight blokes trialling with the club since November. Two of them were previously on the list.

Shit or get off the pot.


What are you on about?

All clubs bar 4 played prior to the cut off date, and if they had a long term injury had the option to add a player on Friday, so how is that fair for the other 4 clubs that played after the cut off?


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2025
PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 10:39 am 
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Jez1966 wrote:
Crusader wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Melbourne and Carlton appealing SSP cut off date . Claiming teams that had already played had an unfair advantage

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I think the Club have a fair point .

Yeah, but nah.

We had eight blokes trialling with the club since November. Two of them were previously on the list.

Shit or get off the pot.


What are you on about?

All clubs bar 4 played prior to the cut off date, and if they had a long term injury had the option to add a player on Friday, so how is that fair for the other 4 clubs that played after the cut off?



If the injury occurred in round 1 we would still be in the same boat!
I gather that the SSP was not instigated with long term injury replacement in mind and hence the current cut off date.
With injuries in mind, your point is very valid and the cut off date should be the day before each team plays their first game of the official season. Then every team is on a level playing field.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2025
PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:11 am 
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carntheblues wrote:
Jez1966 wrote:
Crusader wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Melbourne and Carlton appealing SSP cut off date . Claiming teams that had already played had an unfair advantage

Sent from my SM-F926B using Tapatalk

I think the Club have a fair point .

Yeah, but nah.

We had eight blokes trialling with the club since November. Two of them were previously on the list.

Shit or get off the pot.


What are you on about?

All clubs bar 4 played prior to the cut off date, and if they had a long term injury had the option to add a player on Friday, so how is that fair for the other 4 clubs that played after the cut off?



If the injury occurred in round 1 we would still be in the same boat!
I gather that the SSP was not instigated with long term injury replacement in mind and hence the current cut off date.
With injuries in mind, your point is very valid and the cut off date should be the day before each team plays their first game of the official season. Then every team is on a level playing field.


I agree about round 1, but it didn't happen then, it happened in the practice game. I know this is the AFL and a level playing field is not a high priority for them, but this is a simple fix, you can't disadvantage the 4 clubs, just extend the deadline until say tonight. I am sure the club has a pretty good idea of who they would take and don't really need much time.


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