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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:08 pm 
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Marchbank has 1 full Game under his belt... that's about his range... he will either pull out this week or breaks down as usual.

I also expect Martin to break down too.....and McGovern is due for a Hammy :grin: :grin: :banghead:


Nostradamus.

Jinxed us Dodo.

You picked it with Gov but wrong with Marchy. Close though.

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I'd like to see Binns as sub


nah, if he plays he starts. i think its a bit unfair to have a first gamer as sub, the nerves would build up so much over the game
I hadn't thought about the nerves, fair point

But apart from that I've never really understood the argument against debuting a player as a sub. They get an advantage coming on fresh when the rest are fatiguing.

Anyway, it's Carlton so there'll no doubt be an injury in the first quarter :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:09 pm 
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Bloody hell Dodo, stop doing that

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:26 pm 
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Pittonet vs Marshall

Marshall runs around a bit.
Pitto just has to nullify him.

Cripps vs Steele
Hewett v Couch
Docherty vs Owens

Last week in the last quarter when we were up against a surging Pies, Dow, Fogarty and Cuningham at the centre bounce and they won a couple in a row vs Daicos Daicos & Pendlebury.
Our midfield B Team.
Game over.

We ran all over them. Got to the contest and supported each other. Everyone. not just Cerra and Gov.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:29 pm 
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Hewett. Cripps, Doc and Dow are the keys to this game. Win the contested ball and clearances and we win.
Fisher and Fogarty to also maybe get a run through the middle this week as rotations.
Can't see us going extra tall in the back half this week, so Fisher, Dow, Cottrell and Mots on the bench. Ed probably sub.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:29 pm 
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I'd like to see Binns as sub


nah, if he plays he starts. i think its a bit unfair to have a first gamer as sub, the nerves would build up so much over the game
I hadn't thought about the nerves, fair point

But apart from that I've never really understood the argument against debuting a player as a sub. They get an advantage coming on fresh when the rest are fatiguing.

Anyway, it's Carlton so there'll no doubt be an injury in the first quarter :lol:

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Me too.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:46 pm 
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TBH, we did well to get this many games out of Guv in a row, given his history.
Over to you, Marchy.

But how does Honey get anywhere near the squad, let alone the side?
Let's hope one of the small fwds isn't also under a cloud...


plays consistently ok in the twos for a start. they know what they’ll get from him. like a poor man’s Owies or something.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:47 pm 
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Unbelievable.....That is how predictable this Club of ours is....

McGovern is one of those bad recruits- injury prone and breaks down easily. Good solid interceptor but what is the use if your not going to be there when most needed!


I expect Martin to have a spell after St.Kilda Game..... Marchbank too LOOL


SEN Radio and every footy radio are saying the Saints will Win....But if we keep playing the same way with our pressure, we will Smash them no matter what!

Just pray we don't drop off the way we been playing....


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:50 pm 
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Reckon S Durdin might be a good chance to play. No back man has come into the squad for McGovrrn except him. No Cowan, Young or Plowman. Could potentially put Doc back but he’s required in the middle given the injuries there.


Govs been our main kick-in and often receives when Saad kicks in. the one thing with all the injuries i was happy about was relative stability in back six/seven. this is not good. if backline stays solid then we must have swallowed a manic elixir six to eight weeks ago.


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Can't see us going extra tall in the back half this week, so Fisher, Dow, Cottrell and Mots on the bench. Ed probably sub.



What about if they play king camminiti membrey?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:00 pm 
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I like the decision to consider Durdin. Ross will possibly use Caminiti to drag Weitering away from the play. Having another tall defensive option gives us flexibility. If the Saints go small, sub him out.
It also shows how far Young has fallen.
Kemp on Membrey, Saad on Butler and Cincotta on Higgins. I doubt King will play. Obviously Sinclair is the key. Hewett seems the logical option when he's in the middle. Perhaps Fogarty when he's at half back.

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CK95 wrote:
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Can't see us going extra tall in the back half this week, so Fisher, Dow, Cottrell and Mots on the bench. Ed probably sub.



What about if they play king camminiti membrey?


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Have you not heard of Weitering, Marchbank and Kemp. :lol:


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Law firm is it? :lol:

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problem with losing gov is his kicking is irreplaceable at the back. the games he's missed this season, we're noticeably worse. expect more turnovers from whoever replaces him (kemp/ marchbank) and those fast transitions out of defence into the midfield where we run & carry into attack won't be there.

i thought we might be okay, missing walsh and cerra, bcos our backline will still stand tall, and through gov, saad, doc, acres we'd rebound fast and run hard thru the middle which the saints don't deal well with.

if we're slow, we play into the saints hands.


this has danger game all over it.


when you look at the top of the table ... no other club has as many soft tissue injuries as us. this cannot be rotten luck. this is a management problem of player's load. it's kinda alway been with us too, before russell came in.


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To me, this game is a massive 'what have we learnt' game. First time we played them was the most annoyed I've been at a game for years. Sat up top and could just see kick after stupid flowering kick to no one but saints defenders.

We have not played like that the last few weeks, short kicking game and dare has been amazing and execution first rate.

Without 2 of our best kicks in Cerra and McGovern it will be a real test. Saad, Docherty and Newman have a big role to play I reckon off half back.

The Ross sugar hit has gone and we'll beat them... If we've learnt.

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fingers crossed BH ... gonna be a big game. i feel like this is the game that defines our season.

win - we make finals and get some big players back.

lose - it starts the self doubt and the invasive thoughts creep in and we miss out on the 8 by something stupid like %. again


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:12 am 
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Weird that people are saying it's a danger game when it's 5 v 7, but I sort of get it

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:21 am 
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problem with losing gov is his kicking is irreplaceable at the back. the games he's missed this season, we're noticeably worse. expect more turnovers from whoever replaces him (kemp/ marchbank) and those fast transitions out of defence into the midfield where we run & carry into attack won't be there.

i thought we might be okay, missing walsh and cerra, bcos our backline will still stand tall, and through gov, saad, doc, acres we'd rebound fast and run hard thru the middle which the saints don't deal well with.

if we're slow, we play into the saints hands.


this has danger game all over it.


when you look at the top of the table ... no other club has as many soft tissue injuries as us. this cannot be rotten luck. this is a management problem of player's load. it's kinda alway been with us too, before russell came in.


Fair enough. I think its players who can't handle the loads required to have players fit to run out 4 quarters. You need the loads if you want them fit. Vossy's contested game plan requires that resilience. May the fittest men remain standing. Have to make a decision on those at the end of the season. Gov's one of those too. he's a terrible footballer when he's not fit (see his first 3 seasons).

I think 190cm Gov is overated as a KPD. Its team defence that has enabled him to keep his opponents under control. When he's isolated with a taller opponent we suffer.

Govs 'wonder' kicks are only 1 or 2 a game when he's on, and the rest of his kicks fit into the team footy everyone is playing, including Kemp.

Marchbank is a very good kick and quick. He was rusty in his first game back with decision making, with the smother and walking through the goals (terrible decision by umpire), Kemp is finding his feet .
Its not Gov I miss. Marchbank and Kemp are very good marks too.

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problem with losing gov is his kicking is irreplaceable at the back. the games he's missed this season, we're noticeably worse. expect more turnovers from whoever replaces him (kemp/ marchbank) and those fast transitions out of defence into the midfield where we run & carry into attack won't be there.

i thought we might be okay, missing walsh and cerra, bcos our backline will still stand tall, and through gov, saad, doc, acres we'd rebound fast and run hard thru the middle which the saints don't deal well with.

if we're slow, we play into the saints hands.


this has danger game all over it.


when you look at the top of the table ... no other club has as many soft tissue injuries as us. this cannot be rotten luck. this is a management problem of player's load. it's kinda alway been with us too, before russell came in.


Fair enough. I think its players who can't handle the loads required to have players fit to run out 4 quarters. You need the loads if you want them fit. Vossy's contested game plan requires that resilience. May the fittest men remain standing. Have to make a decision on those at the end of the season. Gov's one of those too. he's a terrible footballer when he's not fit (see his first 3 seasons).

I think 190cm Gov is overated as a KPD. Its team defence that has enabled him to keep his opponents under control. When he's isolated with a taller opponent we suffer.

Govs 'wonder' kicks are only 1 or 2 a game when he's on, and the rest of his kicks fit into the team footy everyone is playing, including Kemp.

Marchbank is a very good kick and quick. He was rusty in his first game back with decision making, with the smother and walking through the goals (terrible decision by umpire), Kemp is finding his feet .
Its not Gov I miss. Marchbank and Kemp are very good marks too.

We will be right Braithy



it really isn't the players unable to manage, it's our system, unfortunately mate.


i have a bunch of text message's here i'm sitting on that i'd love to publish here. there's nothing really stopping me... but anyway; it shows there's a level of ingrained arrogance at the club about strength programs and protocols.

for example, russell has the guys doing their conditioning on an Ultra G treadmill - non weight bearing. it gets the cardio into us, but doesn't laod the muscles up and (eventually as the season grinds on) strengthen them. it's just one of the reasons why we suffer so many soft tissues.

pies implemented pilates and yoga into their program - and look., no soft tissue injuries.


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