..we're good at that when running forwards.. ..I have watched krooz run defensively length of ground trying to chase or running to help defenders many a time, have watched him run by our onballers and speedster many a time too..

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Yeah true, BKB ... I forget about Kreuzer. When he was healthy he was a gutbusting runner heart and soul type.

..even when not 100% he still emptied his tank.. ....I can remember losing my voice in a match when I lost my shite watching krooz running as hard as he could trying to chase down the opposition as he ran by Yarran who was just jogging, I went full berserko..

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Well for the first time in Kreuz's career the club did the right thing by him and let him get the surgery he needs without trying to bleed more from his tank.

If he comes back healthy, he's one of our best.

..not by their choice, club was forced to, dont worry as soon as they can play him, they will rush him back.. ..i have no doubt about it, we will play him until we break him..

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... if we haven't already (broken him), huh?

kruzer see you pre season training forget 2014,get that foot right and that a good start for 2015 already.

..we've certainly tried to..

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So, contested ball and tackles stats are the crux of our problems?
Yet the Saints out tackled the Hawks and matched them at contested ball yet they lost by what? 145 points?

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Bv what would the score have been if they had made twenty less tackles?.

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Pure laziness is our problem. No pressure on the opposition, given then time to steady and pin point the ball to whoever they want.

We just jog on the spot.

Also this flooding crap, when we get the ball in the backline, we look up and there is no one to kick too. Whos fault is this? Players or Coach.

We played like that for 3 quarters then surprise surprise released the shackles in the last and kicked a few.

I dont get it really....

"Released the shackles" or Collingwood had put the cue in the rack?
I'd put my money on the latter.

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We flood because other teams moved on from that by working hard in transition.
With us it's either forward or back.

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Well Collingwood did put the cue in the rack, but our formation was better. The forwards stayed forward and we had someone to kick to by playing on quickly.

How can we play on quickly and run out of the backhalf when we have no-one to kick too.

Flooding does not suit our players as we dont work hard enough to run to the other end of the ground and we dont have the skills to execute that game plan.

Malthouse needs to adapt our game plan to suit our lazy players.

Todays game plan suits runners, not slow stop start crap that Malthouse wants us to play.

I am not blaming him by the way, our players are lazy but he needs to adapt.

They're just timid and lazy.
We switched the ball in the third quarter last week from the congested members side to the open southern stand side, but only Collingwood players came across the ground. Next thing we're hand-balling on the half-back flank trying to get past the press with no get-out option further down the field.

..no game plan suits lazy players..

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Our club slogan a few years ago was "no passengers".

MM claims we are carrying too many passengers!

We have players who have broken their bones for the club playing next to players earning three or four times their wage...

This only causes division in the player group.

Why kill yourself when players doing VERY well from the club are not prepared to lead?

Until we stop throwing money at a handful of players and expecting the rest of the team to carry them, this team will remain fractured.

Sure, we need to learn from the successful clubs how to recruit - but we need to learn to pay them evenly too...

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"...the less you know - the more you believe..." - Bono 2006

we are to slow simple so we recruit a guy called cripps (lucky his tall).MM must adopt the coll,geel,port,process so in prseason start training for this.

There is no effective game plan for lazy players...

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