Hey ... come on ... you are preaching to the converted.

I am all the way with Dr Strangelove ... you have to go backwards to go forwards ... and boy are we going backwards (well done Doctor). And I agree ... don't play Cripps or Buckley or Graham ... we need to fully understand our weaknesses. Its a shrewd tactic. May I suggest ... if we do go young ... we should try Bootsma or Watson again ... not to mention McInnes (I said not to mention him!) ... The Doctor knows what he is doing.

Who needs a modern coach like Clarkson (2 premierships in 8 years ... probably 3 in 9) when you can have the Doctor (3 premierships in 30 years ... including 1 premiership in the last 18 years ... who wouldn't want to be on board). I have embraced the bomb tactic. If you bomb the ball in for an extended period of time ... sooner or later someone in the navy blue will mark it ... sheer brilliance. Also I am happy that one day we will bore our opposition into submission. Looking forward to that day ... whooo hooo ... Viva the Doctor. Now we know Fremantle is much more precise and they actually seem to have a strategy but ... who needs precision when you have the bomb! ... they can have their modern fancy tactics ... we have ours.

Go Dr Strangelove and the MC ... what a combination ... sparkling!

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!

dunno even know what youre talking about....

why dont you explain it ...

tell us exactly what youre talking about.. right now its like im watching some bad d grade movie youre in some weird american bible belt meet and youre talking in tongues.

take your time..

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Huh? ... I am just agreeing with you.

Taken me a year to stop worrying and trust in Dr Strangelove ... just letting you know I am 100% on the bandwagon.

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!

what are you agreeing with me about?
this isnt about agreeing and bandwagons.. its about i dont want any of this stuff...





it kind of freaks me out...

tell us exactly what youre thinking.......but in a way we can understand u... if you can give us coherent reasons .. we might even agree with u and join your bandwagon

but right now im afraid to inform u .. u have never put one point together that makes sense ...

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As I said ... it blind faith now ... I am with ya brother.

We have a real winner in the Doctor.

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!

I think BBW may have wiped out too many times

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dane's trolling again

Easier to do if you have a list that is young with talent.... ours is a very old list with very limited young talent (Menzel/Cripps)...
We were carved up by seriously talented midfielders in their second, third and fourth years... we have no midfielders in that age group* let alone talented ones...

*only Graham fits that criteria but he isn't going to make it (at least not in a big way)...

the stats were fairly even until the last 15 minutes.

The only lob sided stats were the 1%ers - tackles, blocks, hard running for the team etc... and they went Port's way....

That was a winnable game, we even got ourselves back in front after Port were on top in that 3rd term.

Tactically we were predictable even though the tactics worked well early - Port were very poor in that first quarter.

Were you happy with our 1%ers against Port?

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ah yes... and the stats over the 4 quarters???

u see cretyus... in 1995 stkilda and sydney both beat us

why not check our % last year v theirs???

i go on percentages... i dont go on stats of 1 of 4 quarters over the rest.

you see football is not played over one quarter for a reason...
just as tennis opens arent played over 1 set or 3.

now if that game had 2 more quarters... im just guessing here... wed have been smashed by more.

theyre fitter.. younger.. more enthusiastic.. care more .. but thryre also more talented

i never went and put any money on mark woodford to win a wimbledon singles crown... did you??

before u give me the stats on one quarter give me the stats on the other three... thats a better indication of what is going on...

and actually thats somewhere you can put your finger on as to why we lost.

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on the 1 %ers.....

get this......

Port could have improved theirs too.
so if we improved our 1%ers by 50% and port improved theirs by 50% they would have won by more.

of course 1%ers can always be improved upon.
That doesnt mean we have as much talent going forward

Thats one side of the equation and yes youre right... we should be constantly improving that to improve

the other side is raw talent....

if we improved out 1%ers alot... many times fold...
and the talented sides didnt do them.. we win!!!

but good sides have both....

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A percentage is a stat....

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Cretylus where did i say i didnt think % was a stat ?

reread my last post.. i said i go on %ers.. not 1 quarter over the course of a game.

you get all kinds of weird readings if thats how u accumulate your data...

you of all people should know that.....

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People need to watch statistics, they can mislead and distort...

I like key performance indicators, that have reliable statistics that can characterize them properly.

And in sport they take this area very seriously.

When Kouta was on fire in 2000, and took 18 marks at princes park against the eagles, at least 12 of those marks were contested. And carlton as a team only had about 65 marks for the whole game.

It would be like a player having about 35 marks in today's game, with about 25 of them contested.

To me the 1%ers are a starting point for getting recruited! picked in the team or selected in the leadership group. No compromise on that front.

Work rate and team sacrifices and ethics are equally important.

Then we can work on tactics and game plan...

If we applied the 1%er selection criteria to out team! quite a few would be playing in the bull ants.

I don't want to think about applying it to last years final against the swans.

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Wouldn't have made the finals without kouta in 2000 no matter the one %.
Ask Wayne Johnston

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That game was in 1996 btw

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Yep, I agree with that. Mick's not solely the problem but the appointment of Mick is symptomatic of our last 12 years.
Stop gap measures to give an under performing board breathing space. Mind you, that wouldn't be so bad if there was a plan in place. What is our direction off field? Membership? Growing the supporter base? We're miles off the pace.
What is our on field direction? Mick stated a week ago we're 1 minute away from our premiership window. Not the way we're playing! FFS, if we're 1 minute away. I'll hate to see where we're at when we're 6 hours away. Yet what changes to our primary list have we made in the past 2 years. 10% turnover? Premiership teams turn over more than that.
Too many people there for the wrong reasons = ineptitude.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Extraordinary reaction to one bad quarter. Thought there was plenty to like about the performance, and clearly plenty to dislike as well. My major concern is the obvious lack of faith in players 25-38 on the list, which can be the only explanation for selecting clearly underdone players.

I thought we looked good at times. We played as compact as I have ever seen us in the first quarter. They way we contested at clearances also look new and exciting.
I was disappointed with the falling way in quarters and how bad we looked when we didn't have momentum. Familiar look really.

Hopefully we pick a better balanced team in the future, weed out those letting us down and build a bit of fitness that can see us play like we did in the first for longer periods of games.

Tactics to nullify a team with a run on would be handy too.

Having said all that I still can't stand that Malthouse. Dr Strangelove ! What on earth is he doing at Carlton !!!!

does anyone think that the lack of use of the bench contributed to the last quarter
only 84 interchanges

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I found this stat bizarre. A team obviously running out of legs that was unwilling to use the bench

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