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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:04 pm 
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And there goes our Finals hopes-With Port Winning by kicking 4 Goals in 4 Minutes ( It was more like Adelaide game fixed the result for the sake of SA being present in the Finals ).


Time to play the Kids.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:11 pm 
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Navy Blue Horse wrote:
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People bagging Gibbs' efforts tonight must have never seen Chris Mayne play and don't know how important he is to Freo.

Great effort by Gibbs tonight.



I just doubt that having Gibbs play a role like that is a luxury we can afford


+1. No. 1 draft picks are NOT lock down players. Gibbs is not no. 1 draft pick standard.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:24 pm 
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MIL wrote:
Navy Blue Horse wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
People bagging Gibbs' efforts tonight must have never seen Chris Mayne play and don't know how important he is to Freo.

Great effort by Gibbs tonight.



I just doubt that having Gibbs play a role like that is a luxury we can afford


+1. No. 1 draft picks are NOT lock down players. Gibbs is not no. 1 draft pick standard.


You have to forget about the no 1 bit. It will cloud your thinking. Just think of him as one player on the list who has a role.
He did it well. Beat a dangerous player, repelled plenty of attacks and allowed Watson to go forward.

He hasn't set the world on fire in attacking roles this season. Barely had an impact when playing in them. I'd say yesterday was close to his best game for us this year. Brisbane game was very good also.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:34 pm 
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choo wrote:
Gibbs did a fantastic job on Mayne.
All those people bagging Lyon need to smarten up. 31 scoring shots. No Pav no Mcfarlin. No ibottson. All about discipline and structure. And small forwards who like body contact.
The days of blokes who can't kick are well and truly over.
You must be composed.


Good post Choo. And your second last point is telling........


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:58 pm 
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COMPOSURE UNDER PRESSURE

The good sides have it, we don't

I've been banging on about trying Watto fwd for a while.
I feel slightly vindicated after last nights effort.... i feel it could be his go. He seemed much more comfortable

Mclean, Carrots, Judd all close to the end

Scotto was great, but thanks for the service
Thought 1AW,Simmo and Gibbs all had good games

One of the Amigo's needs to go. Yarran or Eddie for me
Graham, Menzel and Casboult need to play every game for rest of the season.
Rowe not up to it.

McInnes back asap please

All the talk of going after Dale Thomas, quick fix imo. I'd rather try and entice Dustin Martin.
No one has mentioned this, am i missing something???

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:00 pm 
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PS

Took Possession of a lovely Blue Heeler pup yesterday.

After last nights game he goes by the name of TOUHY!!!!

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:40 pm 
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Mark J wrote:
COMPOSURE UNDER PRESSURE

The good sides have it, we don't

I've been banging on about trying Watto fwd for a while.
I feel slightly vindicated after last nights effort.... i feel it could be his go. He seemed much more comfortable

Mclean, Carrots, Judd all close to the end

Scotto was great, but thanks for the service
Thought 1AW,Simmo and Gibbs all had good games

One of the Amigo's needs to go. Yarran or Eddie for me
Graham, Menzel and Casboult need to play every game for rest of the season.
Rowe not up to it.

McInnes back asap please

All the talk of going after Dale Thomas, quick fix imo. I'd rather try and entice Dustin Martin.
No one has mentioned this, am i missing something???


I thought Walker had a shocker last night

He has been ordinary for over a month now


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:45 pm 
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Dodo27 wrote:
And there goes our Finals hopes-With Port Winning by kicking 4 Goals in 4 Minutes ( It was more like Adelaide game fixed the result for the sake of SA being present in the Finals ).


Time to play the Kids.

Chad Wingard represents everything you want in a player (along with Dangerfield). Tough and skillful but most importantly a competitor who wants to win and is happy to take the responsibility for winning the game. We have too many contributors and not enough winners.

The other point being that players like this are hard to find.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:57 pm 
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Mark J wrote:
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Took Possession of a lovely Blue Heeler pup yesterday.

After last nights game he goes by the name of TOUHY!!!!


Should be an Irish terrier.

In fact, doesn't look too dissimilar to young Zach. :razz:

Image


BTW, good luck with the pup! :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:59 pm 
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Mark J wrote:
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Took Possession of a lovely Blue Heeler pup yesterday.

After last nights game he goes by the name of TOUHY!!!!


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:21 pm 
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club29 wrote:
King Kenny wrote:
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things will look very different next year


That's why this year has been good. We have a new coach who has seen what players can and can't do, who can now make decisions to improve us.


If you sat down with MM after a book signing last September and were asked what each player can and can't do I am sure you could have told him what seems to have worked out now. All of us could. Even a herald sun reporter could have told him.

Does anyone here really believe that Malthouse's ego didn't get a hold of him ? He thought he could turn them all around. Fix the unfixable.

Bit of a waste of time this year.


We're in nowhere land

Each year we get different messages from the club.

Massage the message to lock in their positions at the club.

Look after number 1

Bring in MM because we were close....

Go after Cloke because we were close...now everyone is saying it's the midfield. HUH?

Menzel is a very similar type to Wingard. Wingard played 19 games in his first year and with Alan Richardson and a full pre season this year has gone bang. Fair enough Menzel coming off a knee but surely his and Graham's form has deserved more games.

People talk of midfield....we have two prototype ball winning attacking skillful mids in the 2s.

If it's all about midfield get the @#$%&! midfielders in there!

The next stage will be getting the chequebook out for someone like Daisy. Somehow Daisy will be the panacea and on it goes.

Such a white knight complex at Carlton. The supporters get sucked into it too. Daisy or someone else are going to come in and solve everything.

Who cares about planning the use of salary space.

How about a slow and methodical plan!

Not a process where appointments are made on the basis they give boardroom people breathing space.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:52 pm 
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We had a crack,but they had a crack for longer and harder.Worst part about it is i reckon we have more talent.Dockers are just a side for mine,but get the very best out of themselves...................im always upbeat,but for the first time ever i am so flat.I have run out of answers.....................just sick of the promises and assurances that its all in hand and we are on the way.This Club is all talk and no action.Do something,and thats not go and get a Daisy Thomas or someone whos gonna save us single handidly.Just own up to the fact we have wasted the last 10 years,strip it back and start again.

PS............if i get another phone call pleading to by another raffle ticket after i have forked out a small fortune on the damn things i will scream.These people are like the little boy that called wolf.If you cry too much people dont believe you.You can go to the well only so much before it runs dry.ONE PHONE CALL ONLY.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:55 pm 
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club29 wrote:
MIL wrote:
Navy Blue Horse wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
People bagging Gibbs' efforts tonight must have never seen Chris Mayne play and don't know how important he is to Freo.

Great effort by Gibbs tonight.



I just doubt that having Gibbs play a role like that is a luxury we can afford


+1. No. 1 draft picks are NOT lock down players. Gibbs is not no. 1 draft pick standard.


You have to forget about the no 1 bit. It will cloud your thinking. Just think of him as one player on the list who has a role.
He did it well. Beat a dangerous player, repelled plenty of attacks and allowed Watson to go forward.

He hasn't set the world on fire in attacking roles this season. Barely had an impact when playing in them. I'd say yesterday was close to his best game for us this year. Brisbane game was very good also.

Sorry, but you've got to be joking. Ok, Gibbs may have done a reasonable job on Mayne but I can't abide the crappy efforts where he leaks a couple of goals by just being dumb. Both he and Murph had one shocker together.

Such a frustrating player, so good, but sometimes not there and insufficient ticker

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:04 pm 
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3 observations from watching it live
1. Freo players certainly look bigger. It told in a number of one on one contests.
2. Workrate from Freo was from minute 1 till the final siren was awesome. Players always had someone working back to support or running forward to create an option. Difference on the night.
3. Discipline was outstanding. Consistancy if positioning.

Freo give themselves every chance.

We are no where close to this level of playing. Until we gut run both ways as a TEAM. We will not be top 4.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:33 pm 
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Dominator7 wrote:
3 observations from watching it live
1. Freo players certainly look bigger. It told in a number of one on one contests.
2. Workrate from Freo was from minute 1 till the final siren was awesome. Players always had someone working back to support or running forward to create an option. Difference on the night.
3. Discipline was outstanding. Consistancy if positioning.

Freo give themselves every chance.

We are no where close to this level of playing. Until we gut run both ways as a TEAM. We will not be top 4.

I would have pretty much the same observations, also from watching it live

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:10 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
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why dont they just castrate us and then be done with it?

footy is crap!!!


they control the crowd the way they control the game... its all artificial


THIS!

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:13 pm 
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The most interesting part in all this, is that the most unaccountable footy team has turned into the most accountable and without change in personnel. Now that is food for thought!


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:00 pm 
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MIL wrote:
The era of the small forward has come and gone.


Don't tell Fremantle that. :confused:

There's more than one way to skin a cat. Obviously you draft and trade to fix list weaknesses. And then you structure and coach to make the most of your talent. There's no other way we're going to consistenly score enough to win games over the next few years apart from our smaller forwards. We simply don't have the kpf stocks. And even if we miraculously can snare a couple of good ones, it'll still take some time before they're ready to make an impact.

I'm not convinced that Eddy, Jeff and Yarran is likely to work very often. But that's mainly because Eddy doesn't have much of an engine, and Yarran simply doesn't work hard enough. So maybe it'll be Eddy, Jeff and Menzel next year. Or maybe Gibbs will go forward. Or maybe Walker will go forward again. Maybe even Dylan Buckley will step up.

But we simply don't have the Swans deep list of talented midfielders to play the extras as small forwards.

What we need is greater fitness. Greater work ethic. Greater intensity. Greater defensive pressure. And then we'll look a lot more effective. Freo played Maine as their only vaguely tall forward yesterday (and he's no taller than Walker). With guest appearances by the ruckman. And they made it work.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:06 pm 
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everyone is in self preservation mode

they know cuts are coming

they know changes are afoot

there is no signs of playing as a team

its all me me me

some have already taken the easy way out and given up

selfish pricks most of them

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:26 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
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club29 wrote:
Murphy has had an interrupted two years. Shoulder, face, knee and groins. Has had very limited pre season last two seasons. This is why his form is rubbish. He is trying to be a leader and playing on anyway but his body is not letting him. He is best sitting it out and getting set for next year. In 2011 form he can build himself into a good leader but while he is down and out and doubting himself he is no good to at all as a leader.

We know he can play. Lets get him right.

yes but hes no captain....


That's why Mick shouldnt have made the decision to make him captain,
The players know their peers better than a new coach coming in.


Did Mick make the decision? I have a feeling there was some influence.


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