Been drinking tonight Cimm? Probably time you give it away I reckon...(not the grog - the club...you seem more a bitter Freo supporter anyway)

It's July (dry July BTW), isn't this when you normally drop off and tell people to give up, put the cue in the rack and send the players in for surgery?

Did you end up becoming a member this year? or did you just urge everyone else to?

How do you feel about getting people to sign up with "NO LIMITS" only to be told the list is crap when we hit 50k members.?

That was last year. Pretty sure i was proved correct. You were the one who wanted that team with that coach to keep winning! And had that happened, Brett Ratten would be the coach...again....in 2013...and 2014. And the exodus out the door of more than one player whom you like would have happened. Because the players had had enough of Ratten by Round 4. so when do we jump off this year? or have we missed our stop, are we in 2014 mode yet?



Absolutely. How 'bout you? me and the kids



But we knew the list wasn't idealWhen you say we are you talking about "NO LIMITS Malty or "NO REBUILD Malty. This is nothing new. Malthouse was always going to come in, assess the list and make change. It's the Malthouse way! Your anger shouldn't be at Malthouse - it should be at a real lack of direction with regard to list management. The mistakes made by Icke, Swann and McKay. This list that the board determined was a top 4 list, Ratt's has gone and this guy is doing worse without the injuries

The 50K members has everything to do with negotiating a move to the MCGand yet no mention of how bad the list is until the target was reached. Wasn't related to the playing listNO REBUILD, Micks words not mine. Do you really read my posts? Or do you read them and take something completely different from them than others?

The list is !@#$%&.... told you ago.

Peaked already, Ratten needed to go for destroying us.

Not that I buy that, but even if were so, what about the original message and the timing of the change in expectation Synners?

It was either willfully misleading or a complete misreading of it's abilities.

I don't buy that a coach who had been out of the game for ONE YEAR had no idea, or couldn't determine more quickly, what condition the list was in.

And then, (probably having blown smoke up all the strugglers) he and the CEO say a lot of these guys, who had performed manfully till that point, are not the future.

No wonder they dropped like a stone on Friday.

It beggars belief.

No he knew he and McKay spoke about it last year..... All cazzesman.

If that's the case I have nothing but contempt for all of them.


Burn it to the ground and salt the earth.

No he knew he and McKay spoke about it last year..... All cazzesman.

Don`t understand your argument here. You want to stick with the board that has made all these decisions that you don`t like. As BV said, this same board has had plenty of time to show its worth and failed. Why not throw the positions open? They can stand again and be re-elected if the members think they have done a fantastic job.

People need to take responsibility at all levels of the club Surrey.
We cant sack the coaches and think our problems are solved. The problem exists at all levels. There are issues with our direction, our lack of accountability, our lack of innovation and the obvious lack of real leadership. That can only be addressed by reviewing all aspects of the club.
Is it a personnel issue that is contributing to our malaise or is it structural? The incumbents have had ample opportunity to make accurate assessments from the inside and they have obviously failed to do so or failed to do so competently. Why let the status quo remain when its evidently not working?
Lets be honest, if the board are doing a good job, surely they have nothing to fear.

Its only the insecure and undeperforming who should fear an independent review.

Those bagging Malthouse are clueless.

Mick knows exactly what it takes to win a premiership. The kind of players you need to win a premiership. The right culture you need....... THEY ARE NOT THAT EASY TO WIN

He has come from one of the best resourced clubs in history, what ever he wanted he got and thats why he had COllingwood play in 4 grand finals, 8 preliminary 6 in a row.

Those who thought Mick was going to walk in and steer the current group to a flag this year are delirious.

Season 2013 for Mick is working out if he has those ingredients to take this club to a flag...... He worked out pretty early in the piece he doesn't. We lack smart footballers, leaders, skilful players and a bit of mongrel. THATS NOT MICKS FAULT

Mick is a smart man. He will rebuild this list. Rebuild the culture. He will demand success and demand the resources that a club like ours should have. And I HAVE NO DOUBT THE CLUB WILL BE BETTER FOR IT

I for one am most happy to have Mick at our club no matter his age. He knows his stuff. He knows what it takes and HE WILL REBUILD THIS CLUB

YOU GOT TO HAVE FAITH IN MICK..... he will do it

Spot on

Well if the Pratts and Matheisons are dishonest, then get Collo back or hand in the keys!!!
We're flowered.
I fear some people in here are more dishonest though.