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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:24 pm 
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Saw Yazz's effort again today.....gee Brock was in a LOT of space :cry:


Just gets me so upset when I see that piece of play.
Should have hit Brock on the chest, game over!

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:28 pm 
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So many easy chances missed by Richmond should've seen the game beyond reach in the first half.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:49 pm 
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Needs to be dropped because of one mistake.... :clap: :clap: :clap:
Thankfully some within this kindergarden don't make these decisions. :thumbsup:
Lucas will not get any recognition because within TC he is soft and turns the ball over..... :razz: Nothing like Camporeale either. :banghead:

Campo was a star player for a number of years I hope he plays as well as him

Big Lucas fan


I haven't been a fan but have had a chance to watch alot the games from the preseason and I think he's getting better. He's bloody quick so he's got a weapon. Already he can create space for himself then go BANG if theres a gap for him to exploit.

I think when he learns to make the next play in his head rather than be dictated to in front of him he will be a dangerous speed machine.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:08 pm 
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Lucas will be a player. As captain blood used to say, a good ordinary player at that.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:18 pm 
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Lucas will be a player. As captain blood used to say, a good ordinary player at that.

I believe he'll make it....has impressed so far....helps that he is being played too....

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:35 pm 
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his kick across the ground that went backwards and a mile away from any player?


The one you're making up you mean? Didnt happen.want to make up another reason to bag him?


Thought Hampson's game was encouraging, but yeah, that piece of play did happen. Late third quarter IIRC.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:56 pm 
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Ditto. Hampson's leading and marking were very encouraging, but you could tell by the final quarter he had no further confidence in his kicking and he did that ridiculous pass across the forward line that resulted in a lost possession.

But really there were plenty of oops moments in the game. Thinking of Yazz's misses, Eddie having a fresh air shot off the ground from 20cm out, Tuohy missing a chest mark that went straight through his arms and straight to a Richmond player. They all add up.

Hampson was particularly culpable for some missed opportunities, bit on the while he was encouraging.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:15 am 
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widows pffffft im making things up???.....go back to sleep..... :screwy: :lol:

Look Hammer has been in the system for 7 seasons(yes time flies) and were treating him like hes a first year player.

He has to be able to use his brain abit...and there needs to be some confidence in him when he gets the ball...
a 25 year old rookie still showing flashes of potential here or there...
He has no clue how to ruck still.... and i prefer to see what Warnock has to offer and use Kreuzer up forward where he does have smarts does use his body... does tackle.. and makes a tackle.

Hampson to me so far is Ken Doll...

He also needs to go to the ressies to ruck.... he is never going to make it if all he is doing is playing a poor key forward.
Its as much for his development as it is for his career and the best interests of this footy club.

Unless we all think hes a more natural forward than Casboult..... then Casbouts got to go.

You cannot clog the forward line up with guys who will not IMPACT the score board or general play

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:47 pm 
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Disappointing effort different coach same lack of intestinal fortitude mentally weak - its about time this team took a long hard look at itself
Hate Carringbush but look at effort yesterday with about 6 of their best players not playing

Second quarter reminiscent of some ordinary efforts last year

Don't agree bad man about Hampson at least 4 quarter effort from him unlike yazz Jeff betts McLean who played about one and a half quarters at best
How many contested marks would we have taken without Hampson
Did a couple of dumb things but so did yazz
Casboult deserves more of a go but was ordinary at best
Joseph is not good enough made even worse when Robbo
Other pros Lucas and Bootsma are improving
Gibbs excellent and so was Jamison and Kreuzer
21 rounds to go but an ordinary first up performance on the back of ignominious NAB Cup GF performance
Need to do a lot better forget about game plan show a bit of guts and how about just once being mentally strong instead of fragile


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:00 pm 
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well yarran needs a stern talking to.

but he has shown in the past he can play the game at a high level.

hammer has never shown he can play this game at the required level.

oh im sure someone will point out a quarter or the odd game....thats not what im talking about.... hes lining up 60 odd games and in the system seven years....he cant tap to advantage yet...the huge athletic beast that he is... and blokes like goldstein show more.

As for a forward if people think thats his natural calling now that he still hasnt made it as a ruckman youre kidding yourselves.

Hammer can play forward as well if he could ruck competently... then he can play a spare parts forward role.

And he wont learn to ruck playing as a spare parts forward who is ineffective ....

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:35 pm 
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I dont think he's a natural tall forward but unfortunately, I think he's the best option we have.
Thats why I was keen to get a tall forward with our first pick. We have quantity but not quality.
At least Hampsons tall, reasonably athletic and can jump at the ball. Just as important. he rarely gets outmarked.
But lets be serious. If we dont sort the midfield out, it wont matter. The ball wont get there enough anyway.

The game's all about winning the contested footy and controlling it. Between our midfield structure and our propensity to kick to contests, we're doing neither.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:44 pm 
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Dean Cox wouldn't have made a lick of difference in the second quarter and our last two NAB Cup games.

Amazing how some just keep going on like a mindless pit bull and refuse to let go.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:58 pm 
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But really there were plenty of oops moments in the game. Thinking of Yazz's misses, Eddie having a fresh air shot off the ground from 20cm out, Tuohy missing a chest mark that went straight through his arms and straight to a Richmond player. They all add up.

Hampson was particularly culpable for some missed opportunities, bit on the while he was encouraging.


It was a very strange game. Dominated by Richmond for a fair portion of the game. And yet with our last quarter dominance and forward opportunities we somehow managed to lose a game we should never have lost.

You can add Martin kicking a goal from the 50 metre near the boundary. And Deledio kicking 2 goals from 60 (at least one of which should have been touched by Jamo, if not both). And Murphy has a chance to stop Jackson running into an open goal, but can't hold the tackle. And some bonus 50 metre penalty goals. And a Richmond goal after Vickery kicks McLean in the neck. And Simmo misses another couple of sitters (for someone of his skill level). And Robbo gets knoced out early. And half our team were non-contributors. And we couldn't win a centre clearance, despite winning the taps and all the midfield talent we had in. And yet we still should have won in the end.

Still not sure what to make of it all.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:27 pm 
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Kouta wrote:
Dean Cox wouldn't have made a lick of difference in the second quarter and our last two NAB Cup games.

Amazing how some just keep going on like a mindless pit bull and refuse to let go.

Dean Cox would have made a difference... are you kidding me??? :lol:
Look at that WC group of mids he has to play with........

But like BV says the midfield is very important..... and we need to get the balance right and the appetite wet.

But Dean Cox wouldnt make a difference ???? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:43 pm 
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well yarran needs a stern talking to.

but he has shown in the past he can play the game at a high level.

hammer has never shown he can play this game at the required level.

oh im sure someone will point out a quarter or the odd game....thats not what im talking about.... hes lining up 60 odd games and in the system seven years....he cant tap to advantage yet...the huge athletic beast that he is... and blokes like goldstein show more.

As for a forward if people think thats his natural calling now that he still hasnt made it as a ruckman youre kidding yourselves.

Hammer can play forward as well if he could ruck competently... then he can play a spare parts forward role.

And he wont learn to ruck playing as a spare parts forward who is ineffective ....


I think his best games have been when he has had to solo ruck. Like a lot of big guys he thrives on hard work.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:53 pm 
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I really believe in order to find some structure.
We will need to get McCarthy fast tracked at CHB...
Push Hendo forward.
Bring Warnock in and make him 75% ruck.
Push Kreuzer up from mid to forward and 25% ruck using his enormous apetite for hard work
And work around that.....

I know some people think Big MAc isnt ready.... but thats our only option as far as im concerned..... i think he will come good with some confidence.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:28 pm 
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We're pretty good at developing a lack of it.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:29 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
I really believe in order to find some structure.
We will need to get McCarthy fast tracked at CHB...
Push Hendo forward.
Bring Warnock in and make him 75% ruck.
Push Kreuzer up from mid to forward and 25% ruck using his enormous apetite for hard work
And work around that.....

I know some people think Big MAc isnt ready.... but thats our only option as far as im concerned..... i think he will come good with some confidence.



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I found this quite funny at the end of today. Then again, maybe I just needed to smile at something after Thursday. :idea:


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