Followed by

"Hey boys, Juddy here. U R Pwned!"

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

Then you'd be just as big of a wanker as he is.

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"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter" - Winston Churchill.

Will Mark H or anyone else from the board come on and tell us if a proper or any investigation has been conducted into this now infamous cruise on the Yarra?

I for one would like to know why only the 3 who were publically caught out were punished. Mind you, it is all going to die away really quick now that the tennis is coming up.

Otherwise what's happening at training?

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"Get ready, Teddy - you're on": Ron Barassi half time 1970 Grand Final

Walker should burn for having bad shoulders, bad disposal and bad decision making in having a child out of wedlock on top of this.

Victoria's State Goverment should ask Tiger for the money back.

Footballers should be as moral as our political leaders who wouldn't go from singing songs about uranium to approving uranium mines.


We should expect more from people who can run fast and kick a ball.

I'm just waiting for the next human interest story on A Current Affair and Today Tonight about dodgy journalists who pretend they're interested in the truth, not a sensationalist story. They could have a hidden camera watching their mates make stuff up, before taking it to another journalist for verification that it's a bare faced lie to sell papers. The AFL will only withdraw a journo's accreditation if they have a factual story about footballers taking recreational drugs.

Robinson killed Big Foot!

Truth is out of style...

I think they were lighting their farts.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Sorry for being lazy -but in this thread did we establish who organised the Cruise?
The club seem IIRC were suggesting it was "unofficial", does that mean a player booked the S.S. Chunder or some other person?
I would hope a rule about all (even informal) team gatherings be reviewed by a player welfare officer or the like and the usual tricks of how much booze to supply, what entertainment to provide, and how do we get these valuable club assets home are addressed.

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Green Shooter

I would like to think that the large sum of $$$$ we're paying Leading Teams would curtail the need to implement such policies.


One has to wonder about the effectiveness of Darren Harris' department in terms of player development.

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There's so much I could say...

Is there anyone who's not at fault?

I'm sorry, I thought part of his departments job was the personal development of the young players.. my bad!

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There's so much I could say...

Its their off season for crying out loud, do you not get that. They're not school kids.

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

It was initially reported that Houlihan organised the cruise....which probably means that he didn't organise it.

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"I had to eat"

Yeah, because they've proved that they're way more mature.....

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

It's not necessarily a conscious decision...

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Ok I found a punishment worse than suspension today.

I say line up all the players with a tea spoon of wasabi paste that they have to devour within a minute. If they're anything like me they'll think it's avocado and try to take it all in one hit

happened to me too rafa when I first started eating Japanese food.

Stings like hell but really clears up the sinuses.

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“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

You're normally better than that.

Harris was hired to communicate things like ball-drop technique and running gait. You know, turn the science into regular football speak. The day we have to hire someone to remind blokes that running through the city streets in your jocks is not great for publicity, will be the day that Netball takes over the sponsorship dollars.

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"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter" - Winston Churchill.

Lucky they didnt film it and included a couple of rubber chickens.

Teaguey I see your point but when you loose a major sponsor and get plastered across the daily's front and back, the off-season is really like it once was.
In my experience forty 18-28 year old (even sober) boys are basically children.

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Green Shooter

*snip*

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

..don't think he should be traded, the shoulder probs weren't his fault, and a couple of silly driving infringements isn't too much trouble.. ..as for this latest thing goin' to help out Hoops, it's ramped up a bit to hammer home the club message more than actually being equivilant to any misdemeanour..

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..if you can't be good, be good at it..