You talk about misrepresentation yet quote an average for Dow knowing full well that he’s often been the unactivated sub (or particularly under DT) spent little or no time in a midfield role even when he was played.

Dow’s centre clearance numbers
PA (sub) 2
WC. 4
Pies (sub 33% tog). 3
Saints 4
Demons 3
Suns 4
Giants 4

Since you brought up the finals, Cerra’s centre clearance numbers
Swans 0
Demons 2
Lions. 0

Hewitt’s centre clearance numbers
Swans 1
Demons 0
Lions 2

Happy to provide more stats I.e., Secondary Clearances, Score Involvements, Clangers

IMHO, he’s a better midfielder than Hewitt and Kennedy, and offers something different to Cerra. He’s also more durable than almost all of them and a better mover than most of them.

You used Hewitt as an example of a player with multiple strings to the bow!!

I’m not sure what you’re referring to with your last sentence. He has been outstanding in the State League, ramped up his possessions and become a goal kicker. He’s always been professional, and when selected at AFL level, he performed…

I agree Cripps gets all the opposition attention, and rightly so, he’s our superstar! However Cripps and Dow (in a supporting role) did combine very effectively together…

And that Dow will be elsewhere…

I'd rather keep fisher than pick 40+ unless it's all about stock piling points for the campo twins next year - but I'd worry about that next year as they will likely change the rules anyway.

fisher is good depth at worst

retain unless we get an offer that satisfies. pick 19 from the swans seems perfect if Norf want to be considered decent trading partner during their rebuild.



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Fish has been nothing but professional and was even quoted as loving the group and the club by his manager while they were softening the public before the official trade request . either way it's already done. no way we allow a medical if he's "required". pretty sure it's next years we might give u a pick but still take it away Barnaby French piik

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A better mover? What does that even mean? He has a better running gait? No bone vibration? I'm tipping 17 other clubs would take Cerra before Dow and throw in a first rounder for good measure. What he offers different to Cerra is poor ball use and poor decision making. That's not a positive.

I'm not here to bag Paddy Dow. I like the kid and would like to see him succeed in Navy Blue. But suggesting he's our best clearance player and better than Kennedy, Hewett and comparable to Cerra is very difficult to justify. And using that as an opportunity to bag the club and the football department is poor form IMHO. They've given Paddy years of opportunities and I have no doubt they'd love to see him succeed. But he hasn't. It's in his best interests to see if he can improve in another environment.

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Cunningham , Sam Durdin and Marchbank have all signed on for next year

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/14472 ... -the-blues

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Glad they kept Durdin. I thought he was a good chance to be delisted.

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Happy with all of that.

GO BLUES!

Same. Marchy and DC were able to get back on the park. Marchy improved as he once again picked up the pace of AFL footy. DC started well but dropped off yet has some traits we lack - breakaway speed, clean hands, composed and generally good user off both feet.
S.Durdin very handy depth player.

Hopefully a full pre season will see Cuningham last all the way through next year.

Sam Edmund just said it'll be St Kilda, & there will be a trade. And his mail is normally pretty good.

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The bloke running/moderating the chat on the foxsports website reckons we'd get aints pick in 30s for Dow but will be a lot of back and forth and wont get done till late.

1 year to prove he can play AFL.

Regards Cazzesman

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I’m pleased with one year deals for Cunningham & Marchbank. S Durdin could have gone either way IMO (27 y.o. who has played one game in two years) but they obviously see something in him.

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The Swans have cash to splash and if Paddy has told us he’d be willing to go there then we can tell SOS that Sydney will trade for him so if you want him, hand an ok pick over.

SOS works for St Kilda now. He is the enemy as far as I am concerned and we should not be doing him any favours nor do I expect Austin to either.

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Don't the Swans already have their hands full with Jordan, Adams, & Grundy?

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Marchbank and Cuningham deserving of one year extensions given their resurrections. If (and I know it’s the massive if), they can both get proper pre seasons in, they should go up a level next year. Cuningham especially looked tired after 11-12 consecutive games which he may never have done in his career.

Haven’t seen much of S Durdin but he’s cheap key position depth / insurance that could come in if needed. I’m ok with him getting another year given the drop off from Young.

One year is sufficient for Cunningham and Marchbank based on their history and their form.

Also surprised re S Durdin but perhaps they figure if Cunningham and Marchbank can get back out there so can be.

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