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Story behind this?
Did get locked for a home invasion IIRC upon delisting/return to Perth.

How does that message conflict with that of Swann or Mathieson? All three think the list is underperforming and want to see something done about, and I would say Swann and Sticks are on exactly the same page, with Mathieson is acting like the high-roller he is (he's invested enough in the club to be angry and disappointed).

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One time was due to (allegedly) being caught with illicit substances on him at the club.

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Um, you can say one thing publicly and believe another but I'd say what's written pretty much conflicts, yeah.

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Only allowed on Mad Monday's up there. What ever happened to Jason McGrath's headline grabbing statement earlier this year?

Let me see if I can summarise each series of comments; tell me if you agree.

Sticks: We're not performing but I have hope they can improve; we've given them every advantage and on paper they are good enough, but football isn't played on paper.

Swann: We're not happy internally; we're looking at the list, and we'd love pick 1 if the Giants want to give it to us; we'll need to make some difficult cuts if things don't improve.

Mathieson: I am unhappy with the performance of our list, and believe the blame should be laid on the recruiting team; we need to improve to match the effort that has been put into this club at every other level. I think wholesale changes are required to make this happen.

Well?

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FWIW, here's my take.

Senior List
Out: Joseph, Ellard, Davies, Duigan, Collins, Scotland (ret.)

Further assessment: Mitchell, McCarthy

Elevate: Cachia, Curnow

Rookie List
Out: Rhys O'Keeffe

Further assessment*: Frazer Dale, Tom Bell


Trade Table (in order of likely value):
Hampson, Robinson, Casboult, Warnock, Laidler, White

* - (only one can be retained as a third year rookie if that rule is still in play, though I believe Bell has a contract for 2014 at the minimum, so elevation is likely)

Further assessment implies that we look over those names, run the rule through the draft pool, and consider whether we stand to gain from dumping the listed players in favour of starting anew.

So bare minimum that's 3 off the senior list, which is the minimum requirement, and up to 5 incoming on the rookie list. Senior losses could easily double or (much less likely) triple. 7-11 players out and 8-12 coming in? Around 25% of the list; that's 'pretty radical'.

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I generally agree with the above - I think Mitchell and McCarthy are a good chance of being delisted

Curnow seems to be going OK and most likely survive but I would cut him, we have too many players who cannot kick, yes he is an elite runner but we have too many of similar ilk

Trade it will be Hampson or Warnock not both - I think Robbo will be at the club, and with order I would probably swap White and Laidler around on value

I liked the look of Dale but he hasn't got a game this year outside of the pre-season comp, haven't seen any N-Blues games so not sure if his form is that bad??

Even though Wato did OK last night I would put him up as a trade, a lot of people are divided on his potential that I talk to, but most likely will be there next year

Maybe we're better off finding a key defender to release Henderson fwd if there are no key forwards available of the right age, price etc? Is frawley from melb available?

Watson will be very serviceable in the long run,.
He needs to grow and learn and he will make mistakes and sometimes look out of his depth but he is young and needs consistent exposure in the seniors.
One thing about him is he makes very good decisions when he has possession and has excellent disposal both to distance and touch.

Yes if there is no pressure...

He looked pretty crap last night.. except in the last 1/4 when everyone looked good because StKilda was broken...

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Watsons use of the ball is good - athleticism not in the same universe to where it needs to be.

Put him on the rookie list.

Collins isn't on the senior list btw, he's a rookie.

Agree. His turning circle is just ridiculous.

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He makes Harry Madden look agile. His ability below his knees is also a thing to behold.

I d be shocked if he could touch his toes.

Yeah.....................Shocked.
I'd be shocked if you watch the game by name of Aussie Rules.

No need to play along with the lemon-suckers here. Be your own person.

I watch and what I see is a young guy that can barely bend over to pick a ball up and most of the time seems to be jogging on the spot.

Crucial to our fortunes next year are

Bell
Cachia
Gibbs
Graham
Bootsma
McInnes
Henderson
Jamison
Waite
Yarran
Kreuzer

Must keep these guys and demand more from them.

I disagree. He was exposed one on one against a leading forward but in saying that a lot of defenders will get destroyed on the lead (look at Reiwoldt on Jamieson. Hit him up on the lead and Jamo may as well be on the bench). In the physical contests he did a lot better.

What I did like about Watson was that he held some composure through traffic, and outside of an errant kick off the boot toward Simpson on the flank, his disposal was outstanding.

It made me think about the comments of him being dastardly in the VFL, but he went okay (against not great opposition). His mobility is going to be the biggest problem, so he needs to watch a fair bit of Harry Taylor to see how he goes about it, and model himself around that.